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Fastback 86 NOV 17, 10:22 PM
So what you're saying is, someone else didn't take enough pride in their work to do it right, it's ok that this upholsterer didn't either? Not sure I follow your logic, but if mediocrity is fine with the customer, well, it's his car. I'd send it back, but then I guess I don't think "good enough" is good enough when I'm spending what your customer is on this car.
Archie NOV 17, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by Fastback 86:

So what you're saying is, someone else didn't take enough pride in their work to do it right, it's ok that this upholsterer didn't either? Not sure I follow your logic, but if mediocrity is fine with the customer, well, it's his car. I'd send it back, but then I guess I don't think "good enough" is good enough when I'm spending what your customer is on this car.



When does it end????
madcurl NOV 18, 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by Fastback 86:

So what you're saying is, someone else didn't take enough pride in their work to do it right, it's ok that this upholsterer didn't either? Not sure I follow your logic, but if mediocrity is fine with the customer, well, it's his car. I'd send it back, but then I guess I don't think "good enough" is good enough when I'm spending what your customer is on this car.



The reason "why" you didn't follow the Miura's stitch logic is simple- you don't think before you speak." Had you known that the original Miura's featured are known to have this type of flaw (if that' what you want to call it) is viewed as normal. Thus the original owner was just following a known pattern. On the other hand- trying to hen peck anything that Archie is building- now that type of behavior is indeed a character flaw.
Fastback 86 NOV 18, 02:07 AM

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Originally posted by Archie:


When does it end????



It could have ended a week ago, but you brought the stitching back up. I said my peace and left this thread 6 days ago. You came back for more, don't act so surprised that you got it.
Fastback 86 NOV 18, 02:15 AM

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Originally posted by madcurl:


The reason "why" you didn't follow the Miura's stitch logic is simple- you don't think before you speak." Had you known that the original Miura's featured are known to have this type of flaw (if that' what you want to call it) is viewed as normal. Thus the original owner was just following a known pattern. On the other hand- trying to hen peck anything that Archie is building- now that type of behavior is indeed a character flaw.



Oh please. This whole "the originals were done poorly so it's ok we do it poorly" excuse showed up almost two weeks after the fact. Read Archie's post again, I'll quote it for you.


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Originally posted by V8ArchieSince the Italian craftsmen who built a bunch of these car over several years couldn't get the stiching perfect, I guess we can't get too worked up blaming the current American upholstery craftsman in his 1st shot at the job.

I'll bet that by the time he gets to the 5th or 6th one, he'll have it better than the original.



Shoddy stitching for authenticity's sake wasn't the plan, it's an after-the-fact excuse to excuse the grievance. Not only has it not been presented as an underlying plan, but quite the opposite has been presented instead. It's convenient that the original Miura had poor quality stitching, but one person's poor workmanship doesn't excuse another's, especially not 40+ years after the fact.

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madcurl NOV 18, 02:38 AM

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Originally posted by Fastback 86:


Shoddy stitching for authenticity's sake wasn't the plan, it's an after-the-fact excuse to excuse the grievance. Not only has it not been presented as an underlying plan, but quite the opposite has been presented instead. It's convenient that the original Miura had poor quality stitching, but one person's poor workmanship doesn't excuse another's, especially not 40+ years after the fact.




LOL Grievance by a overly concerned Fiero owner- now that's a new one. I guess you'll be calling Jay Leno telling him (and all others mind you) about the shoddy Italian stitching on real Miuras and how you're an expert as-to how real stitching should be on real Miuras and replicas; after all you own a you own a Fiero, right? Son, you need to sit back, enjoy the show, and don't become overly concerned about a owners approved stitched work.

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whodeanie NOV 18, 09:14 AM
Anyway,

Archie, any updates on this great build?
I look forward to updaets on this one like I did on Troys
Sofa King NOV 18, 09:26 AM
Hi A,

I've looked at this thread 50 times, at least, and this is the first time page 8 actually came up - for some reason I was never able to view page 8. I'm not sure why... I'm pouring over all the images and comments to find out how you did all that custom interior work. Which, looks fantastic fully clothed...

Keep up the great work

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Boogaloo NOV 18, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by Fastback 86:


Shoddy stitching for authenticity's sake wasn't the plan, it's an after-the-fact excuse to excuse the grievance. Not only has it not been presented as an underlying plan, but quite the opposite has been presented instead. It's convenient that the original Miura had poor quality stitching, but one person's poor workmanship doesn't excuse another's, especially not 40+ years after the fact.




I find it hard to see why it should bother you about the workmanship of this car when you are not footing the cost of building it ,if the owner is satisfied with it then so be it,Archie is doing a great job that you can't do so until you can do better why not just shut up if you are not going to say some thing positive.
Archie NOV 18, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by whodeanie:

Anyway,

Archie, any updates on this great build?
I look forward to updaets on this one like I did on Troys



I was getting online last night to post about 50 pictures as an update to this thread, when I found that I had hurt someone's feelings. All of a sudden I wasn't in the mood to post any of them.


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Originally posted by Fastback 86:
It could have ended a week ago, but you brought the stitching back up. I said my peace and left this thread 6 days ago. You came back for more, don't act so surprised that you got it.



Just in case you hadn't noticed, I was responding to a statement by another member.

You know, it might make things a lot easier if you'd just post up a list of phrases, words or topics I'm not supposed to use in my thread.

Then you wouldn't be getting your feelings hurt so often & we could continue with this thread without your insults.

Archie

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