The Miura project begins (Page 40/84)
bubbajoexxx NOV 11, 03:48 PM
love the car Archie you have done a bam fine job on this build and wish you the best and cant wait to see more progress

best wishes bubbajoexxx
InTheLead NOV 11, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by Archie:


Not to worry, 99% of the time the sanding or grinding pics are recreations (without the mask & goggles) because the flash on the camera will light up & show the dust in the air if I take pics when it's actually being done.

Archie



Ahh okay that makes sense. Kinda able to give us potential customers a view of whats happening behind the scenes that way.

I enjoy the pics thanks for posting as you progress~
Sofa King NOV 11, 09:12 PM
I've said it once I'll say it again... I love this build. I think the interior work is outstanding. I've been inspired to tackle my own interior build as I am sure others have, and that's all that should matter (and the happy customer who will be driving the car). We shouldn't let a few opinions poison an incredible build.

Keep up the great work Archie and keep the pics coming!
ArbinShire NOV 11, 11:04 PM
I would rather agree about the comment in regards to the stitch-work. It looks to be a little jagged and not perfectly straight. It looks as thought it were something I did myself with a sewing machine. Of course, my opinion is only that, but it doesn't look at as good as I think it should? A a real Lamborghini would have near 100% perfection. I've seen a couple Miura's and their interiors don't have that non-linear stitching.
Mr.PBody NOV 11, 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by Archie:


You know, you've both said what your opinion is of the interior parts. So be it, you're not the owner of this car & you're on the record as having given your opinion.

This thread has been going on for almost 2 years. The guy who owns this car is also a member on PFF, so the message has gotten thru to him. Why do you want to turn it into the kind of trash you see on RFT?

Both of you do a lot of hating on RFT about PFF & myself. It appears that it entertains you & keeps you off the street. So take it over there.

You've stated your opinion...... I know for a fact that you'll never be within 10 miles of this car & so you'll never have to worry about having your senses insulted by seeing the interior from any closer than that. You see this guy doesn't hang in the same crowds as you do, he's way out of your league.

From the start of this project, he's wanted to share this build with PFF members. Once you've given your opinion, why is it necessary for you guys to ruin the thread with your petty High School bickering?

Thanks

Archie



I stated my OPINION, and how my OPINION as to ways to make it look better, just an OPINION, when someone makes suggestions it is constructive criticism. If people never hear constructive criticism, you'll only make what looks right in a narrow scope, and it won't be the best it can be.

He saw my posts? Okay? I also see that this is an open forum, if you and him weren't looking for comments and people seeing the work, and the quality of it, you wouldn't have been posting pics for two years.

I don't hate on you on RFT, I critique some of your work and your poor people skills, which I suppose is what this post is about too. I don't run RFT, I didn't start it, I am not a mod, I am not friends with the people who do, don't make RFT my problem.

Maybe the car will be at a show I am at, you don't know that. I am actually very active the classic car community and go to concours events and high end and classic auctions and shows around the country. I show vintage Porsche and Mercedes. In my circle an 80s GM HVAC controller would stand out like a sore thumb. But thats just my poor white trash circle.

High school bickering? I made a suggestion, then you and madcurl came in here trying to swing the banstick and make threats, I am not bickering. My original post was full of suggestions and links. Congratulations on once again missing the point of constructive criticism, getting defensive, and just being rude.

Your Welcome

Paul


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Fastback 86 NOV 12, 02:19 AM

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Originally posted by Archie:


You know, you've both said what your opinion is of the interior parts. So be it, you're not the owner of this car & you're on the record as having given your opinion.

This thread has been going on for almost 2 years. The guy who owns this car is also a member on PFF, so the message has gotten thru to him. Why do you want to turn it into the kind of trash you see on RFT?

Both of you do a lot of hating on RFT about PFF & myself. It appears that it entertains you & keeps you off the street. So take it over there.

You've stated your opinion...... I know for a fact that you'll never be within 10 miles of this car & so you'll never have to worry about having your senses insulted by seeing the interior from any closer than that. You see this guy doesn't hang in the same crowds as you do, he's way out of your league.

From the start of this project, he's wanted to share this build with PFF members. Once you've given your opinion, why is it necessary for you guys to ruin the thread with your petty High School bickering?

Thanks

Archie



Amusing. Could you try to make it a little more obvious that you don't know me at all? Find all my "hate" on you on RFT. Go ahead, I'll wait. Anything you find will be a stretch. As for where I'll be, what crowds I hang in and what "league" I may be in, you don't know any of that for a fact, so I wouldn't go around making declarations you can't substantiate. I offered a one sentence opinion on the stitch work, which you didn't do and therefore has almost nothing to do with you. Madcurl came out swinging with the ban threats and all that nonsense. If you want to know why there's bickering in this thread, ask him.
troyboy NOV 12, 07:20 AM
Back on topic.... Archie when will this outstanding ride be completed.
Austrian Import NOV 17, 08:45 PM
Less bickering, more pictures.

If I may make suggestions:
* Put an overlay on the Autometer gauges, they stick out like a sore thumb and scream "Autozone". (I'm guessing that's planned down the road anyhow)

* Replace the Fiero HVAC with another unit. (there are a few Kit car units available for Fieros)

* Either go completely modern with the Stereo and install a double DIN 7" LCD deck, or go retro with a Becker, or other retro deck. (which ever suits the owners preference) I'm assuming the current deck is a placeholder anyhow. (no need to let a nice deck get dirty from installation)
Add a second color to the interior (preferably darker - see Miura registry). Possibly on the top of the dash. (in case the creme makes reflections/glare on the windshield) Might not be needed. (it's fairly easy to check at this stage of the installation)

I understand that building kit cars is expensive and corners have to be cut somewhere not to let costs spiral out of control. Some of my suggestions may not be financially feasible. (or could be done at a later time)

I agree with others on the stitching. It is crooked.
That said. The stitching on ACTUAL Lambirghini's is crooked as well. (especially older ones, before Audi took over the company) - An inside joke by Lambo owners actually relates to the "Italian" stitching.

I understand the desire of the owner to go to a shop of a trusted quality and price, especially a local (to him) shop. In case the owner looks for alternatives: If I may suggest another upholsterer - AMIDA - . He has excellent stitch work and his quality is better than Ferrari OEM. Many people on this forum trust him. I would have him make an interior as well, but that's not feasible for me right now.

All that said: Keep the pictures coming!!

Archie NOV 17, 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by troyboy:

Back on topic.... Archie when will this outstanding ride be completed.



We're hoping to have most all of the bodywork done by the end of the month & shoot a coat of primer on it. Then we can see what it would look like all one color (any color ).

I'm also hoping to begin the final installation of the engine in the next couple of weeks. There will be a lot of wiring (& interior assembly) going along with that. It would be nice to fire the engine up by mid-December & maybe be able to move the car under it's own power soon after that.

Still lots to do, but I'm looking forward to 2 things, getting the body all in one color & firing up the engine.

We've got a lot done since the last update, I'll get to work posting some of that up here.

Archie

[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 11-17-2009).]

Archie NOV 17, 09:43 PM

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Originally posted by Austrian Import:


I agree with others on the stitching. It is crooked.
That said. The stitching on ACTUAL Lambirghini's is crooked as well. (especially older ones, before Audi took over the company) - An inside joke by Lambo owners actually relates to the "Italian" stitching.

All that said: Keep the pictures coming!!



Reminds me of an EMail I got from another Miura fan.......

"Funny thing but nobody seems to state the obvious. Hand built cars , even expensive Italian ones , are likely to have some imperfections because they are HANDBUILT! That’s why every piece on a miura is labeled with its personal issue number because the parts were hand crafted and are not interchangeable ."

There are not a lot of good interior pictures where you can see the stiching in a Miura, this is the best one I've found.



I did look at the videos of Jay Leno's 2 Miuras & the seams are not straight on either of his car either. There are a few interior shots as follows

http://www.jaylenosgarage.c...i-miura-p400/207082/ at 3:13

http://www.jaylenosgarage.c...hini-miura-s/187641/ at 3:13, 2:10 & :55

Since the Italian craftsmen who built a bunch of these car over several years couldn't get the stiching perfect, I guess we can't get too worked up blaming the current American upholstery craftsman in his 1st shot at the job.

I'll bet that by the time he gets to the 5th or 6th one, he'll have it better than the original.

Archie