FieroGT stretch Concept (Page 4/240)
crzyone FEB 28, 06:35 AM
My intrepid has 130k miles on it, no trani or mount problems. My 3600lb intrepid used to wax my 2.8 fiero from a 40mph roll. The fiero being 1000lbs less would mean less stress on the transmission, until you turbocharge it.
86GT3.4DOHC FEB 28, 09:45 AM
Working at NTB I saw a lot of dodges longitudinal FWD cars, almost all of them with any miles on the had bad or loose engine and tranny mounts. I always thought the whole idea was kind of retarded, when you hit the gas, the engine torques to the side and the tranny torques to the front, throwing stress on the mounts from all angles. Nor could I ever figure out what advanatge this setup has. Seems to me it has even more power loss because the power has to change directions, a *90 gear angle takes more power to turn then a straight angle.

But anyway, heres the pic

crzyone FEB 28, 09:59 AM
Since the engine is directly bolted to the trani there is no twisting forces at all. The only forces are those applied from the trani to the axels, just like a fiero. Since it has equal length axels, there are even less forces being applied than in a fiero. You are correct about the parasitic loss though, you do loose some efficiency transfering the power 90*.

You only get twisting forces when you have a driveshaft. Some newer cars such as the corvette have a solid shaft around the driveshaft that is directly bolted to the motor and trani which is at the rear of the car. This neutralizes any twisting forces on the frame.

Amida FEB 28, 01:03 PM

A transverse drivetrain in a FWD layout? I wonder if a 3800sc could be mounted to this tranny.
I have a stock '88 Formula that I'm thinking of modifying. l'll probably start with the stock wheel base ideas in the above image. Modified rear qtr panels, upper door panels, & front nose. Also, replace windshield with more rounded piece & shortened bonnet.

rogergarrison FEB 28, 04:03 PM
I know someone has pics of the 4 seater factory car or at least Wallenburgs book to scan a pic from.....I know it was there because me n Lisa sat in the back seats at the 20th.

[This message has been edited by rogergarrison (edited 02-28-2006).]

Custom2M4 FEB 28, 06:10 PM

I am surprised no one posted this already.... Sorry I am late Mr. Garrison. Naturally I would question where Mr. Hat was, but that would be rude :P.

Amida FEB 28, 07:52 PM
Wow, that's pretty cool. Great work on the body lines. Any pics of the interior?
liltobe FEB 28, 08:11 PM
pics of the 4 seater prototype...from the 20th...

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20031110-1-031637.html

awesome photoshopping guys, i like the idea of the cadillac headlights and tail lights, got any front or rear photoshops of those?
so far your designs look like a testarossa from the side, nice and sharp

keep it up! hope the link works

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Custom2M4 FEB 28, 08:59 PM
Thanks liltobe, I know you didn't 'actually' ask for a signature, but I had a minute.

Consider yourself PM'd.

Amida FEB 28, 09:29 PM

Thanks. I'm still working on the XLR version; will post drawings when I have something. But I am working on a design buck for a new GTP replacement front fascia. It's similar to the one in this photo but without the Sunfire headlights and it's for the stock Fiero.