1927 Pontiac Fiero (Page 4/41)
toddshotrods JUL 16, 11:37 PM
I finally made the decision to build the car Big thanks to everyone who is helping ward away my sanity

I am naming it the "Timepiece"
timepiece \-pes\ n : a device (as a clock) to show the passage of time

You're right on target with some of the stuff you posted Gokart. Especially the clock/watch thingy. I am going to use the gauge cluster from the Cutlass but I plan to see what I can do with it. I separated my Fiero and Camaro gauges and mounted them in pods of my own design. If I can do the same with the Cuddy gauges, I plan to make something like what you posted. Ideally, I would love to have them on an actual copper panel with the markings acid etched in.

Another one you hit close to home with is the steering. I am using the narrowed Fiero rack, and it will be right in front of the nose. In fact, the whole front suspension setup will be exposed, as the nose will nest right in the loop of the crossmember. I have to figure out what finishes will be on all of this stuff.


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Gokart Mozart JUL 16, 11:54 PM
Glad I can help Helps with my mind too. Hmmmm, Steampunk Pegasus...
toddshotrods JUL 17, 01:08 AM
Even though I am not going for the "full-on" steampunk look, I am finding a lot of creative freedom in the concept. Take the front suspension for instance. I decided to steal it from my other street rod project because I realized that for the effort I was going to put into it to make it aesthetically complementary to that vehicle I could build something better from scratch.

On this project, it all becomes so simple. Instead of having to fabricate tubular control arms, I am just going to box and smooth the factory parts. I was going to use rod ends in place of the factory outer tie rod ends, but they look fine now. It's just a matter of a little detailing, and the right finishes, to make my little narrow front suspension setup work.

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tednelson83 JUL 17, 06:47 AM
i actualy think the rusty look of the setup as i see it in the pics is enough of a finish, and would hive it that "old" look you seak. again, i am not there to see it, but it looks very fitting as is. i would love to see more drawings of what you are intending to do. just how "Fieroesque" are you looking to get?
tednelson83 JUL 17, 06:49 AM

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Originally posted by The Poopsmith:



Possible Inspiration and a quick word about how this anime series (Last Exile) is completely freaking awesome. If you like steampunk you will enjoy this series.



i want one of these! that pic is awesome, i would love to drive that to a show, tho i think i would do something a bit different with the nose, im not so sure i like the gun thingy on the front.

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Gokart Mozart JUL 17, 07:15 AM
Get 1, 2, and 2 more motorcycle radiators. With 2 long and flat from a cruizer and 2 curved from a sport bike should satisfy cooling needs.
fierohobby JUL 17, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by toddshotrods:


The three-quarter view has a lot of flaws because I just use it as a scratch pad for the 3D model. What I am doing now is bringing some steampunk influence into the design, and constantly trying to reinforce the Fiero "heritage".




Your body sketch echoes the Pontiac arrowhead, both in overall form and in the detail of the split V windscreen... shape within shape. Nice touch.

-fh
toddshotrods JUL 17, 06:17 PM
Some information in this post was edited to make this build thread an accurate depiction of the project...


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Originally posted by tednelson83:
i actualy think the rusty look of the setup as i see it in the pics is enough of a finish, and would hive it that "old" look you seak. again, i am not there to see it, but it looks very fitting as is. i would love to see more drawings of what you are intending to do. just how "Fieroesque" are you looking to get?



It looks pretty much like the pics. I have some work to do on it and the areas that I work on will end up being smooth clean steel. I guess I could just let it sit outside sometimes and let time even it all out

The drawings, models, and actual build pics will keep coming. The progess may be a bit slow at times, but I am fully commited now.

I want it to make sense to people when they read or hear "1927 Pontiac Fiero". I don't want it to look like an 80's Fiero that has been turned into a street rod. If I accomplish my goal, the unintiated would walk up to it at a show, read the card, and say, "I didn't know they made Fieros way back then!" I would tell them that it's just a concept



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Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:
Get ... motorcycle radiators. With 2 long and flat from a cruizer and 2 curved from a sport bike should satisfy cooling needs.


The body is designed around a rear-mounted, full-sized radiator. I plan to drive the crap out of it, and simplicity is the key to reliability... I'll keep that idea in mind for future projects though.



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Originally posted by fierohobby:
Your body sketch echoes the Pontiac arrowhead, both in overall form and in the detail of the split V windscreen... shape within shape. Nice touch.


Thanks! I'm trying. Actually this is one of the most fun design projects I have ever done. The worlds of rat rods and steampunks are incredibly free and fun! Sometimes I find the silent rules of what you should and shouldn't do with YOUR car in most of the other segments of the hobby to be very annoying. That is the penalty for turning your hobby into your occupation though...


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tednelson83 JUL 17, 06:34 PM
reguarding the pontiac arrowhead thing, you do realize that back than they used an indian head right?


such as this

"taken from the Pontiac Wikipedia page
Style trademarks and logo

Pontiac "Arrow-head" LogoA Native American Headdress was used as a logo until 1956. This was changed to the currently used Native American red arrowhead design after GM realized that Pontiac was suffering from some confusion with other marques. In particular, the 1955 and 1956 Pontiacs had grilles reminiscent of Mercury and fins and taillights reminiscent of Oldsmobiles.

Besides the 'Indian head' logo, another identifying feature of Pontiacs were their 'silver streak' - one or more narrow strips of chrome-plated steel which extended from the grille down the center of the hood. Eventually they extended from the rear window to the rear bumper as well, but ultimately along the tops of the fins instead. Although intially a single 'silver streak', this stylistic trademark doubled for a short time to two, representing the cylinder banks. The streaks along with their grille ripples and the fins were all discarded at the same time as the Indian head logo.

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toddshotrods JUL 17, 07:12 PM

Playing with an idea for the intake. Initially, I will be running the stock 3100 intake and TB, to get everything sorted out and running right; and to get it registered. In the meantime, I will be working on this concept. The inspiration is Pontiac Tri-Power. After reading the thread on dual plenum/dual TB intakes, I came up with this plan for the Timepiece.

I am going modify a spare stock intake (which I just scored today - along with heads, TB, etc - whole top end) to mount three 3100 throttle bodies on top, inline. I didn't draw the TB's under the stacks because I just scratch stuff on the sketch in my spare time. The center TB will be the main piece, and the outer two will be stripped down and cleaned up with progressive linkage that opens them after half throttle.

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