Finale Roadster, The Build (Page 39/49)
Archie MAY 06, 12:12 AM
What I had in mind was a headlight assembly that would fit into the opening that we have to work with. We have found a light I like & we've already fitted one into the car. With the move into the new building going on, we haven't had time to work on the car for a full 3 weeks. In fact the car is sitting back in a corner of the new place right now. I'll take a picture of the light we are using when we get back on it next week. We had hoped to have the Roadster as a "roller" at Carlisle but that's just not going to happen. It will be tough to have it ready for the Dells.

I don't think you guys really realize what all has to go into designing & making a Lexan cover for a headlight idea. Our GT40 replica didn't have any headlight or parking light covers & we had to design & make the tooling & we had to find a actually make the parts. You can't just melt a pc. of Lexan over the opening & expect it to come out ok.

Here are what the lenses look like on the GT40, then I'll tell you what all it took to make them........

Yes, the headlight & park light "Pockets" were already in our molds when they came off of the original car. We had to make an extra front clip, then fill in the headlight & parking light pockets to bring the surface up to be flush, smooth & flow well with the surrounding areas of the body surface. That area had to be smooth & finished up perfect, then we took a temporary mold off of the surface. We then had to take 2 parts out of that mold. Because of the curve of the front of the headlight cover, we had to have a "Female" mold. 1 of the pcs. from the temp mold was used to make the mold surface & the other one was trimmed to fit the opening in another front clip we had in stock. The that pc. was used as a template to put the "Trim Lines" into the mold, so the parts from the mold would be trimmed & would fit correctly everytime. In addition, a "Ledge" to set the finished lens into, had to be build all the way around each of the light pockets. It has to be just the right depth, so the finished lens & the glue that glues it in has the same thickness as the ledge, so it fits flush.

To top it off, we had to do this for all 4 openings. We also had to do the same thing for the GT40 side windows but they already had the "Ledges" ready to go.

How does all this effect the lights for the Finale front clip? Once you've designed the lens shape, then you have to make a new mold of the front clip with the "ledge" built into it. You have to find a vacuum form shop to make the parts. You have to consider if the lens is going to be glued in, how do you service the area under the lens if it has to be cleaned etc., How do you aim the headlights?, How do you mount the headlights?

There are a lot of things to be considered, a lot of money to be spent on developement, tooling & production & you won't know if anyone likes it until you're done.

Just a thought, it's very cool that some people are so good at putting forward designs in Photoshop. And a lot of people have some very good ideas but are no good at Photoshop. But the proof of the pudding is when someone comes along and puts the money & time into actually building something. a good Photoshop guy can put forward 100 design ideas in the time it take one actual builder to even get a good start on building a car.

Archie

Fiero Finale MAY 06, 01:36 AM
Wow this is looking sweet Archie!

I personally say don't touch the rear tail lights, they are so perfect IMO. Now the front lights, there's a little "touch" i'm going to do to them when I finally get a Finale kit so you'll see then

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1986 Fiero Diablo - L4 2.5 Auto, Daily Driver & Project Car.
1986 Fiero Finale - Being A Parts Car For Now Till I Get A Finale Kit For It & etc.
2002 Firebird Phoenix - Dream Car

jstricker MAY 06, 10:15 AM
I think you're going to like what we're doing with the tail lights in the Roadster we're in the process of building, we have those about 90% or more fitted and done and are commonly available junkyard parts for $55/side. I'm thinking of pulling molds off the openings and giving them to Archie to use as an option if he wants to, but I'm not going to offer the changes as parts myself.

John Stricker

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Originally posted by Fiero Finale:

Wow this is looking sweet Archie!

I personally say don't touch the rear tail lights, they are so perfect IMO. Now the front lights, there's a little "touch" i'm going to do to them when I finally get a Finale kit so you'll see then


Fiero38SC MAY 13, 02:37 PM
Would these fit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4548844866

A little pricey, but you would not have to go with HID.

Maybe someone can photoshop them in?

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jscott1 MAY 27, 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by Archie:

Many times I've been driving a Fino or Finale and have had other motorists ask "What kind of car is that?". Well, if you tell them that "it's a Fiero with a custom body on it and a SBC engine", they usually lose interest about the time you say "Fiero". . .. Archie


LOL

I have similar experience will Chop top. People want to hear that its a Lamborghini. The finale looks pretty good the way it is.

PaulJK MAY 28, 12:42 AM
Personally I like the round parabolic Hella headlights.

Then I'd use the tailights 4pointNine suggested.

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netpro55 MAY 28, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by japfiero:

some people might not like the idea of mitsubishi parts on a fiero but i dont think these head lights would look to bad.




Too bad mitsubishi FTO headlights are hard to find in the us. (FTO show above)

japfiero MAY 28, 10:11 PM
should just need to get a part number and order it from a dealer. i was told i could do this for some toyota m-spec parts from japan when i still had my celica. btw i am in japan for the next 3 years...

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Fiero38SC MAY 31, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by Fiero38SC:

Would these fit?

A little pricey, but you would not have to go with HID.

Maybe someone can photoshop them in?


Something happened to my link. Try this:

http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/09/ea/33_3.JPG

2005 C6

JazzMan JUN 01, 12:28 AM
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