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ALLTRBO
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OCT 19, 06:30 AM
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I just ordered the wastegate from www.extremepsi.com . They seem to have a good rep from the DSM folks (I've been out of the DSM loop for several years now) and are verified by many to sell real Tial products. I also ordered a few other parts for my Talon.
I put in the order at about 4:30pm yesterday and by 5pm it was at UPS... with a delivery time of today! Providing that I get what I asked for, I'd recommend them.
Here's the valve seat.
http://www.extremepsi.com/s...9940&cat=1142&page=1
Good luck!
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ALLTRBO
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OCT 19, 05:56 PM
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My wastegate was delivered at 3pm today, that's less than 24 hours! It's the real deal for sure, and so is extremepsi.com... highly recommended at this point.
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Fierobsessed
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OCT 24, 02:45 AM
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TiAL makes some great products! Here's some of what I have sitting on the shelf.
GT35R with a TiAL .82 A/R Stainless dual V-band housing, 50 MM "Q" BOV, and the MV-S 38 MM wastegate.
Top notch quality on these pieces. Got mine through StreetRays, lowest price I could find.
Oh and about that wastegate. You'd be amazed how many people install their TiAL, and knock off wastegates with the valve seat missing. If you search for Wastegate open at idle, you'll hear a lot of stories about that. Your new wastegate probably came with a piece of red tape holding the seat in.[This message has been edited by Fierobsessed (edited 10-24-2011).]
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FieroWannaBe
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DEC 06, 01:43 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ALLTRBO:
My billet 3" stroke crank and Carrillo Pro-H 5.85" rods for the 3200
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Could you give some more information on this crank, It doesnt look like a factory crank to me, nor does the word billet describe one. I though you had mention you would use a DIS 2.8l crank?
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ALLTRBO
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DEC 07, 11:53 AM
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I was going to use a 2.8 crank until I became aware of this one. It'll require an external crank trigger but those are available.
Here's my copy+paste from my thread on 60degreev6.com
My friend Will bought a pallet of old 60*V6 racing parts from Ryan Falconer Racing Engines, they were huge on them in the 80's (and 90's?). They moved on from them, and when they moved their location, they had a bunch of leftover (mostly used) parts. Heads, intakes, the crank, rods, and a few others. I believe this crank was built specifically for or by them, and was used in an engine at some point, but it's like new. It has a 3" stroke (not 2.992", aka 76mm, like the 2.8 crank). This billet crank really is as good as it looks in the pics, even up close. The journals are perfect. It was the only one on the pallet. I have no idea if any others are out there somewhere.
There's more to update here about the car, but I really don't have the time currently. Let's just say that the wastegate can of worms has been opened... more total crap work that was done.
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nosrac
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DEC 11, 05:06 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fierobsessed:
TiAL makes some great products! Here's some of what I have sitting on the shelf.
GT35R with a TiAL .82 A/R Stainless dual V-band housing, 50 MM "Q" BOV, and the MV-S 38 MM wastegate.
Top notch quality on these pieces. Got mine through StreetRays, lowest price I could find.
Oh and about that wastegate. You'd be amazed how many people install their TiAL, and knock off wastegates with the valve seat missing. If you search for Wastegate open at idle, you'll hear a lot of stories about that. Your new wastegate probably came with a piece of red tape holding the seat in.
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What are you going to put these in? I ordered some pretty Turbo parts too. 
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Fierobsessed
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DEC 11, 05:37 PM
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ALLTRBO
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DEC 11, 06:18 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fierobsessed:
Oh and about that wastegate. You'd be amazed how many people install their TiAL, and knock off wastegates with the valve seat missing. If you search for Wastegate open at idle, you'll hear a lot of stories about that. Your new wastegate probably came with a piece of red tape holding the seat in.
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It just goes to show you how many amateurs there are out there. 
You've definitely got some nice parts there! If you have a build thread, will you link to it here? I don't have time to browse much anymore.
I pulled the Fiero onto the street last weekend to get it out of the way for the outgoing other car, then when I went to pull it back up it wouldn't start.  Probably something to do with the cold weather and a lack of an IAT sensor, in combination with a very rough base tune. I got it started today and pulled it back in. Pretty soon it'll be in the garage and I'll be tearing it down again, finally.
As for the wastegate, I don't have pics yet, but I'll post the blurb I had posted in the 60degreeV6 thread about what I found upon removing it...
| quote | (ALLTRBO)
Now, here's the WG's can of worms that was opened when I went to replace it (I fully expect more cans of worms)...
Man, long story short...
The valve seat insert was not installed, causing a large amount of exhaust to bypass the turbo entirely. Remember the problem with the turbo not spinning at idle? Yeah. He blamed it on my turbo being too big.
In addition, the bolts holding the WG to the junk Y-pipe were barely more than finger tight, causing a massive exhaust leak.
The WG's mounting flange was (poorly) hogged out along with the mating flange that is welded onto the junk Y-pipe, and they were tapped for one of two sizes. I say one of two, because one of the bolts was an M10 with a 1.25mm thread pitch and the other was an M10 with a 1.5mm thread pitch. I think that the flange was tapped for the 1.5mm pitch because the 1.25mm bolt and the hole it came out of were stripped worse than the other. Yes, they were BOTH stripped to a degree. Who knows, he may have tapped it for a standard size bolt instead of metric to begin with.
Here's how it is SUPPOSED to work. The WG (both the fake one and the real one in this case) uses M8 bolts, so the holes in the WG are unthreaded M8 holes (imagine that). The flange that is welded onto the Y-pipe should be a threaded M8 hole in this application since the flange was welded flush to the Y-pipe (meaning that you can't put a nut on the other side). M8 bolts are then installed from the WG side while sandwiching the gasket in between the flanges and then tightened to the appropriate torque.
In other words, it's COMMON SENSE. This isn't rocket science! (I should know, I work with rockets and rocket scientists, hah!)
Tell me good people, HOW DO YOU SCREW THAT UP?
So, I can't install my WG yet, as I have to repair or replace that pathetic mess. Pics later. |
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Fierobsessed
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DEC 12, 06:41 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ALLTRBO:
It just goes to show you how many amateurs there are out there.
You've definitely got some nice parts there! If you have a build thread, will you link to it here? I don't have time to browse much anymore.
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Can do, but the build is far off. I've got the magic go fast goods, but no place to work on it. When I get back into a house with a garage things will move forward. For now, im just collecting parts to make this happen. It's an impressive shopping cart so far....
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ALLTRBO
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DEC 16, 07:32 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fierobsessed:
Can do, but the build is far off. I've got the magic go fast goods, but no place to work on it. When I get back into a house with a garage things will move forward. For now, im just collecting parts to make this happen. It's an impressive shopping cart so far.... |
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I completely understand that.
Though if I had this to do all over again, I'd rather look at my pretty parts on a shelf and watch my car rot. I hope you can get yours together before that happens to you, heh.
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