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Hardpact
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OCT 11, 10:50 PM
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pm sent
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 BLUE BY YOU! NYFOC
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bmwguru
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OCT 12, 08:16 AM
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. [This message has been edited by bmwguru (edited 10-13-2011).]
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Hardpact
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OCT 12, 11:19 AM
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not steeling the tread just pm'd him on his camaro ....no trouble for me also explained why i thought the 3100 is a crappy motor to put a turbo on
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 BLUE BY YOU! NYFOC
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ALLTRBO
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OCT 12, 12:36 PM
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No worries Hardpact, I don't think anyone thought you were doing anything wrong.
(Edited to delete the rest of this post; Dave apologized for his recent personal attacks and deleted his radical posts so I deleted my equally radical response here [particularly the profane version, hence the next couple posts... I finally did lose my cool]).[This message has been edited by ALLTRBO (edited 10-16-2011).]
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War Hammer
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OCT 12, 01:14 PM
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Please refrain from the language. It is offensive.
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bmwguru
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OCT 12, 01:19 PM
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edited while I rethink the situation.... [This message has been edited by bmwguru (edited 10-12-2011).]
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ALLTRBO
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OCT 12, 01:33 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by War Hammer: Please refrain from the language. It is offensive. |
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I apologize, that was hypocritical of me. I will go back and tone down the language.
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War Hammer
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OCT 12, 06:30 PM
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Thank you.
| quote | Originally posted by ALLTRBO:
I apologize, that was hypocritical of me. I will go back and tone down the language. |
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ALLTRBO
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OCT 16, 09:36 PM
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Here's the wastegate. There is a large gap between the valve and the body; There is supposed to be a replaceable valve seat insert there to fill in that gap, and it was not put in prior to installation. In person, it is even more obvious than in the pics. I have no idea how anyone could possibly miss that when installing it. In addition to that there was a huge external exhaust leak from that connection as evidenced by the blackened gasket and flange (both sides), and bottom side of the turbine blanket. The bolts were slightly more than finger tight. Ironically, the connection to the dump pipe was fine. Gee, I wonder why my turbo wasn't spinning. 


 . . . Here's the area with the turbine blanket removed...

 . . . This is the condition the wastegate was in (before I removed it)...


The soot in the exhaust's dump pipe shouldn't even be there considering that this car has never seen boost...

Here it is with the actuator top removed. This is the worst of the two holes with stripped threads that holds it together with the spring compressed inside. The wastegate spring that was swapped in was the wrong one for whatever reason, it was a 3.6 psi spring rather than the 8.7 psi that I ordered. The original one was supposed to be a 14.7 psi spring, but I didn't get it back like I had asked so I don't know if it was or not...



And finally, here is a real Tial 38mm, made in the USA and one of the best you can buy (and it includes properly designed banjo fittings). This same wastegate has been on my AWD Talon for about 50k hard miles through hell and back and has not had a single issue (I took it apart once to inspect the diaphragm while troubleshooting a boost problem I was having, but it was like new)...

Dave told me he will refund me the money for that fake wastegate, and I will order one through a reputable Tial dealer.[This message has been edited by ALLTRBO (edited 10-18-2011).]
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doublec4
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OCT 18, 11:00 PM
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Where can you buy the replacable valve seat insert for the tial wastegate? I just bought a wastegate with no seat... kinda pissed. But the only reason I spotted it was because I read your thread the other day! I ended up knocking the guy down a few more bucks. I looked on the Tial website, and I see it listed under spare parts... but I don't know how I can order it?
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