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toddshotrods
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JAN 30, 11:11 PM
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Quick, cue the Mission Impossible theme song...  [This message has been edited by toddshotrods (edited 01-30-2009).]
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Gokart Mozart
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JAN 30, 11:22 PM
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toddshotrods
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JAN 30, 11:31 PM
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The TV version is a classic, but I gotta go with the Movie version. When it came on I smiled, grabbed an open-end/box wrench, barrel-rolled across the floor, jumped up and started running out to the shop - screeech!
I forgot, I sold the shop and the car is still three hours away in storage. 
Better stick with the pencil-n-paper, mouse-n-software, for now we need a plan...  [This message has been edited by toddshotrods (edited 01-30-2009).]
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The Poopsmith
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JAN 30, 11:34 PM
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Sweet! Thanks for the PM on this project. I am happy to see this project make it's revival and from what I see it's going to be excellent. Go Todd Go
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toddshotrods
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JAN 31, 08:27 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by The Poopsmith:
Sweet! Thanks for the PM on this project... |
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| quote | Originally posted by The Poopsmith:
...from what I see it's going to be excellent... |
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Thanks, wait 'til you see what you don't see
| quote | Originally posted by toddshotrods:
...I read about "steampunk"...One type of "steampunking" applies old technology to modern ideas, kind of like this:
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I revisted the original post and, while the budget rat rod thing is out, a slight (but very tasteful) steampunk influence will still be there. It's just what the project is and always was. As I was reading that post I was looking at some of the sketches I've been working on over the past year and even though I wasn't actively thinking, "make it steampunk", it's in all of them. This project seems to have a life all its own. When I lose my way, it seems to always be around the corner waiting for me to catch up.
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tednelson83
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JAN 31, 03:37 PM
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well, im loving the ideas so far!
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Gokart Mozart
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JAN 31, 10:20 PM
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toddshotrods
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FEB 01, 10:00 AM
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Awesome, as usual, GM I was working on some sketches last night wondering if my preference for natural-finish aluminum parts was going to work and you worked your research magic! The interior of that car is A-W-E-S-O-M-E ! I have plans for toggle switches and have been mentally chewing on what I want them to look like. The switches in that car are incredible! I'm not going to copy them, but they will definitely help spark my creativity. I might do something really similar to the indicator lamps over the switches though.
Back to the drawing board, literally...  [This message has been edited by toddshotrods (edited 02-01-2009).]
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toddshotrods
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FEB 01, 12:02 PM
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I know you guys prefer the Pegasus, but I need the Indian head up front. I plan to copy the Indian head from the old nickels. It's barely noticeable but the date is on it, like it would be on the coin - only I changed from nineteen-thirties to '27, of course. The Indian head grille, hood molding, and lower "bumper", will all be aluminum. The mesh behind the head will be aluminum or stainless - black anodized or black chrome plated. A combination of hand-cut, CNC-machine, and hammerform, techniques combined with TIG welding. Basically hundreds of hours...
The Pegasus logo will be on the car. The two locations I have in mind are the fuel filler or the horn button, but I haven't done any sketches yet.
As far as the front suspension. I have a couple plans for a straight-axle style IFS. The one I would really like to do is pretty radical and really fits the theme of the vehicle, but I haven't done a cost/time analysis yet to determine is it's even possible/feasible. The simple one is just a twin-beam straight axle, like the old Ford trucks used to have - and like Flaming River now sells for street rods.
Finally, I am also chewing on an idea for the hideaway lights that will also incorporate the mirrors. The basic idea is for units that look like trim pieces (when in the "off" position) on the sides of the nose, that revolve like an old department store door to reveal the fore/aft guides. This is another part I have to do some serious sketching, maybe some 3D models, and then the cost/time analysis. They would involve significant CNC machine time ($$$) but from what I see in my noggin, they would be awesome!
More to come...[This message has been edited by toddshotrods (edited 02-01-2009).]
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Gokart Mozart
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FEB 01, 02:44 PM
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trivia
http://autos.aol.com/articl...20070727133109990001
For its part, "General Motors" almost didn't get the name it bears today. Durant actually incorporated his company under the name International Motors Co., in New Jersey in 1908. But his attorney advised him that it would be easier to raise capital under a new name.
"We might use 'United Motors Company' were it not for the fact that there is already a United Motor Car Company in that state," the attorney wrote. "We suggest the name General Motors Company, as we have ascertained it can be used."
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Did you know we have Cadillac to thank for the birth of Pontiac? Actually, we have many people to thank for the birth of Pontiac, but the story begins with two gentlemen – Edward Murphy and Alanson Brush.
Murphy was the founder of Pontiac Buggy Company in Pontiac, Michigan which produced horse-drawn carriages, and was looking to evolve into the automotive age. Brush, who was responsible for the design of early Cadillacs, later became an engineering consultant in Detroit. When the two met in 1906, Brush showed Murphy his design for a small two-cylinder car that Cadillac had rejected. Murphy bought Brush’s automotive idea, and decided it should carry the name “Oakland” as did his horse-drawn vehicles.
During the summer of 1907, Murphy organized the Oakland Motor Car Co. His lack of sales with the Oakland, a two cylinder vertical engine that rotated counterclockwise, convinced him that Cadillac might have been right in rejecting the Brush design. In 1909, a line of 40-hp four-cylinder cars with sliding-gear transmissions was introduced, and more successful. Unfortunately, Edward Murphy didn’t see the increased sales due to his sudden death in 1908.
Shortly before his passing, Murphy had met with another former buggy man named William C. Durant. Soon afterwards, Oakland became part of Durant’s General Motors Empire and its design would evolve under his rule. Oaklands most recognized model was produced in 1924, the “True Blue Oakland Six” which came with a new L-head engine, four-wheel brakes, centralized controls and an automatic spark advance, and painted with a Blue Duco nitro-cellulose lacquer.
In 1926, Alfred R. Glancy, Oakland’s assistant general manager introduced the Pontiac - a quality six cylinder engine car designed to sell for the price of a four. This new “companion car to the Oakland was an instant success and Pontiac had been born!
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http://www.conceptcarz.com/...-Buggy-Runabout.aspx
The owners of the Pontiac Springs and Wagon Works of Pontiac, Michigan started building rapid trucks in 1904. By 1907, they decided to also produce an automobile, the 'Pontiac.' A prototype was displayed at the Grand Central Palace Exhibition of the Carriage Dealers Association in October, 1907. In 1908, after fewer than 40 cars were built, the Pontiac Springs and Wagon Works sold its building and part of its equipment to the Motorcar Company makers of the Cartercar. Correspondence from 1929 indicates that General Motors management was not aware of this earlier Pontiac when they named their new car in 1926.
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If you really want history, http://www.amazon.com/exec/...207/carlytheautow-20
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logos and hood ornaments
http://www.allamericanoakla...ocuments/emblems.htm
http://motors.shop.ebay.com...d+ornament&_osacat=0[This message has been edited by Gokart Mozart (edited 02-01-2009).]
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