The Official VR6 Engine Swap (Page 30/73)
Dennis LaGrua JUL 27, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by bmwguru:

I'm planning on posting up a daytime video soon, but I have to wait until Joey is aound. She says it is her car and I have no rights spinning the tires.
I took the last few days off to relax and I closed the shop tomorrow to play hookey and go to Six Flags. If the customers can't understand I need a day off here and there, they can kiss my ass.
The car does sound nice....very Ferrarish. The real exhaust will be getting done soon. Right now it is just a cat....soon to be no cat and just a Magnaflow.
Dave



Dave: By putting a Volkswagon engine in a Fiero I've got to hand it to ya.; you did a swap that no other Fiero owner has done , As far as I am aware, you have the only VW engine thats in a Fiero but a while back there was a picture I believe of a BMW engine swap that was done in Europe. IMO the choice of a VW engine is quite unusual as to my knowledge there is not much support in the way of tuning software for that mill. As for the time off- take it!!! You only live once you know!

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87GT - 3800SC Series III engine, 3.4" Pulley, N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. custom axles
87GT - 3.4L Turbocharged engine, modified TH125H
" I'M ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "

Austrian Import JUL 27, 02:45 PM
Cool.

Take a few days off!! You deserve them.

Six Flags is an excellent choice for that.
bmwguru JUL 28, 06:58 AM
I'm not too worried about any aftermarket mods. There are plenty of good tuning software out there. I'm running GIAC with Evap, sec air and cat delete. The 02J transmission has the Peloquin LSD and there are more gear ratio options for all the gears including reverse available. There are more camshaft grind options for the VR6 than there are for the SBC....well maybe not that many .
I went with this swap because it was what I know. I started with a L36 and wanted to turbo it and I really couldn't see myself doing a swap that I had no clue about. My SBC uses four Webers...I am familiar with the Webers from my customers classic Porsches and VW's.
The 3800t would have been easier and faster, but if it broke, I'd be at someone else's mercy for help diagnosing it.
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Anyway, shop's closed today and Joey, myself and the crew are going to Six Flags.
Dave
HALONINE JUL 28, 12:51 PM
I have a bmw i could fab a swap for the m20 turbo engine that it has. but i just dont think and inline 6 would fit without cutting and lengthing the car its self

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1985 Fiero SE-4 notch back 5-speed
1986 Fiero GT Fastback Auto
1986 Fiero GT Fastback Auto
(yes i have 2 production #6 away from eachother)
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1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 mods and more mods
1987 Bmw E-30 bored 2.9L Turbo 5-Lug swap

bmwguru JUL 28, 05:34 PM
The M20 probably wouldn't fit without frame stretching. I thought about running a M or S52 using a 325xi oil pan and making a direct drive transfer case, but I don't think it would really be worth the effort. My next swap will probably be the W8 or a TDI. I have quite a few hours left in this swap, though. Just when I think I am coming to a close, I think of more cool sh*t that I can do to it and it keeps going. I have a feeling that this car will be nicer than my orange and black one....which may get the four carbed V8 swapped out for a R32 VR6.
Dave
anonymity JUL 29, 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by bmwguru:

I'm planning on posting up a daytime video soon, but I have to wait until Joey is aound. She says it is her car and I have no rights spinning the tires.
Dave



i did not say it is my car, YOU said it is my car....all this time you were telling everyone that you were doing this swap for me..... i watched the video, you said you barely brought it out of the shop you lying SOB! You can go ahead and keep the damn car, I'm happy with my Honda that you hate fixing.

Joey
cptsnoopy JUL 29, 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by anonymity:


i did not say it is my car, YOU said it is my car....all this time you were telling everyone that you were doing this swap for me..... i watched the video, you said you barely brought it out of the shop you lying SOB! You can go ahead and keep the damn car, I'm happy with my Honda that you hate fixing.

Joey



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bmwguru JUL 29, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by anonymity:


i did not say it is my car, YOU said it is my car....all this time you were telling everyone that you were doing this swap for me..... i watched the video, you said you barely brought it out of the shop you lying SOB! You can go ahead and keep the damn car, I'm happy with my Honda that you hate fixing.

Joey



Ouch! even the "World's Most Coolest Wife" can have an off day, I guess. Anyway, What I meant to say before was....Joey says it is her car and she should be the one spinning the tires. I was merely testing the proper disengagement and engagement of the clutch. The full test drive will be done by the owner once the preliminary testing has been completed and passed my standards.
Whew, I hope my stuff isn't on the front lawn.
Dave
megafreakindeth JUL 31, 11:18 PM
the w8 wasnt exactly the greatest thing made, its a cool idea but annoying to work on. it may work better with standalone though. it is also very wide, i think youd have to move the subframe back. if you really wanted to the 30v v6 or the 40v v8 would be awsome since theyre both 60 degrees and might fit nicely though probably not to a vw transaxle. another thing to think about are the new 3.6 'v6' engines they have, basicly its a vr6 with pistons only 10.5 degrees apart not 15 degrees making 280hp with gas milage in mind, much more with a performance tune. not to mention that it makes an 08 passat dsg run 14.5s so in a fiero that should be insane. the r32 only runs 14.7 and the gti runs 14.9(6spd man), why they decided the passat should be fastest is beyond me.

if anything the tdi swap should be the easiest swap since theres really nothing to it at all. if a vr6 can go in the fiero then the same mounts can be used for the tdi(when using an mk4 tdi engine) the same trans can be used as well so that allows you to use the 6spd vw trans. its also stupid easy(and cheap) to get over 200hp to the wheels(using vw parts) with one and still get 45-50 mpg. im working on one for a guy where we dropped the turbo and fabbed a centrifugal blower to it. no exhast restriction, minimal belt drag, much more hp. ill probably use a similar setup in my fiero so long as i can just buy swap motor mounts.

despite the vr6 being a perfect fit for a fiero i just can overlook the simplicity, durability, and less weight of the AHU engine especially since they can make just as much or more power than the vr6 unless its supercharged. plus if it gets 45 mpg in a 3500 lbs jetta who knows how much itll get in a fiero.
bmwguru AUG 01, 09:03 AM
The W8 is a wide engine, but I would probably install it longitudal and not transverse. They are a real pain in the ass to work on. The first time I replaced an alternator I was ripping my hair out. Then again, an alternator job on a VR6 isn't easy either...except in my Fiero. It looks like a 15 minute job. The Audi V6s are too wide as well. I'm just planning my next swap...nothing set in stone yet. I do like the new VR6 3.6l. It is sexy.
After this swap, I'll probably want to take a year off of any swaps and just enjoy driving my Fieros.
Dave