Trinten's SBC/F23 build - The work has begun! (Page 3/76)
Trinten JUN 10, 04:55 PM
Jeff had sent me a link to one, but I don't know what my clearances are between the carb and the distributor, and I have no idea how well they flow.

I see you edited your post! lol, I'll check out the link and more info you gave... and probably edit my post again. hehe

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blacksaleen95 JUN 10, 04:59 PM
The clearance to the dist is something that will have to be checked, but you should still be able to get a bit of room with the drop base. Not knowing what you have for a current base setup, as well as carb/intake, it's tough to say off the top of my head. The drop bases are made more for the Holley style carbs vs q-jet/carter/edelbrock. Unfortunately if the base does contact the dist, and you need some clearance and don't want to cut the decklid, if you've got an MSD distributor, you can probably pickup their smaller cap setup and that will get you some room for the base, but it's also more money you're spending..

Here's some lids... I'm guessing you'll end up with a 14" dia as the 16 will probably hit the dist. http://www.summitracing.com...Plates/?autoview=SKU

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Trinten JUN 10, 05:16 PM
Yeah, here's the distributor the engine has now-

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-850001-1/

Scott (LKN) said - for a carb setup, I'd want to get a 700 CFM flowing intake and carburetor. The carb that is on there now - if I remember right, is a Holley 650 cfm, I don't remember the exact model. Jeff suggested this - http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SPE-98499/

And yes, going to EFI is on the list. I found a place that will make the MAF-type wiring harness for me, very nice quality from what I can see, for 290. The big expense is the intake manifold I want to get, which runs around a grand, but it'll flow well enough to support the engine!
blacksaleen95 JUN 10, 07:06 PM
Well, Not sure where my head was at before... lol..

Discussing the issue with Jncomutt and he informed me you can't use the traditional style round cleaners because it will hit the pass side rail, my apologies for the misdirection.

The current option is the 7" or the triangle, which both wouldn't come close to flowing well enough for that 355.

I wouldn't put anything spectre on anything I owned, overpriced junk imo.

Some options would be to get a forced induction style bonnet for the carb that is connected to a fabricated air box or tube that would allow the use of an off the shelf k/n rectangular or conical filter. Similar to the spectre idea, but exponentially better quality and will function better.

Efi will fix this jk

What intake are you looking at for 1k?!

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-29785/ , 60# injectors, OBD2 computer & MAF, 4barrel tb, lsx coils and you don't have to change your air intake setup you're about to have made, and you have a FI setup that will suit whatever needs you may have.

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Trinten JUN 10, 07:54 PM
This is the intake I'm looking at using -

http://www.firstfuelinjection.com/

It's basically the TPI setup on steroids, the internal diameter of the runners is way larger than the stock TPI (I think even bigger than the SLP runners...), and can be honed out even further if necessary.

I want to do the coil near plug setup, though with the tall valve covers I had to use I'm not sure where/how I'll be able to mount the coils, so that might be off the table. That place does have a full blown package, too, they call it their "retro fit" package for just a little under 2k.. but I didn't want to get into the specs with them over the phone until I was at that stage and had cash in hand.

I was looking at some of the triangle air cleaners (that's what I currently have now, but it's got this terribly thick foam filter), the plan was to cut out the notch in the decklid so it would clear and put a rear-facing scoop of some kind on there. But again, missing some measurements to get that done. I'll probably be out there again before it's ready to be picked up and be able to take those measurements and get that ordered.
Trinten JUN 24, 01:50 PM
Well, looks like Jeff will have kept up with his deadline. I got this update from him today.

"I'll have the body and interior finished within the next few days. I'm waiting on the headers before I put the engine back in to finish that up. I'm avoiding multiple installs of the engine to prevent accidental scratches and other possible damage. I have a spare cradle and will have the car complete sans engine until the exhaust is squared away."

I was hoping to have it back in time for Triangle Two-Seaters this upcoming weekend and Korey's party... but what can you do, right? :/

On a side note, Scotts dad has a TPI setup that he's getting rid of, Scott is sure he'll sell it to me cheap! So a big part of the way towards the fuel injected setup!
Trinten AUG 05, 11:20 AM
Alot of hiccups and set backs since my last post.

1) Found out (by complete accident, thanks to a thread by CaptFiero) that the pressure plate I have may not clear the bellhousing properly. Capt also gave me info on how to test and check that and some measurements, all sent along to Jeff who said he'd check it.

2) Joe had been inexplicably putting off starting on my exhaust. Jeff finally said he'd take over, and we went back and forth putting together a list of exhaust parts, headers, mufflers, etc.

3) After I order I discover that the offsets I got on the mufflers I wanted (Borla Pro XS) might cause headaches, but Jeff would see what could be done.

4) Everything arrives, Jeff starts test fitting, finds out the headers will need to be modified. Gets Joe to agree to modify them immediately, and he does. Headers now fit, though a little closer to the trunk. Jeff will put in some insulation on that side until I get the exhaust coated.

5) Joe is now interested in the exhaust again, and started trying to figure out how to make it with a crossover and keep it quiet and no resonance. He asked me if it was okay if they cut out the bottom half of my trunk and make a new trunk-floor for it so he'd have room for the piping configuration. I said sure. He said this also opened up options for even larger mufflers, which would be even quieter, so I dug around and send him a few other mufflers, though I didn't know the exact dimensions this modification would give him, so I didn't go too crazy - and I did let him know I'd rather him try to use the Borlas so I don't have to deal with shipping stuff back to Summit and reordering more stuff again.

So that's where everything is at... in short, the last month and a half has been full of exhaust-drama, with a one-day (on my end) panic about the pressure plate. lol

No new estimated completion time yet.
La fiera AUG 05, 02:09 PM
Can't wait to see it running dude! I live right here in Mooresville also, near UTI. I know how you feel with this waiting thing. I have my block in Mooreville Machine Shop in downtown Mooresville. Good lord, this fricking guy has a stupid story every time. I paid him $300 advanced of a $450 for the total cost of the job. Nothing extraordinary, just bore and deck, installed cam bearings and fit my new pistons to the rods. He said it will be ready this Friday coming up (that is what he's been saying the last 4 fridays). I had to put some pressure on him. If I don't get my stuff by this Saturday you'll proly hear my name on the 6 o'clock news.
I did an LT4 for a friend and LKN Speed got us the right crank (had to take it apart again) and he also balanced it for us.
Well, if you need help with something let me know, I'll PM you my phone number.

Rei Moloon

PS. Planning to go to Carolina Motorsports Park in September for a track day. So far its going to be me (Fiero), a '94 Camaro with a 377, and a GTO. Let me know and I'll give you some info.
Trinten AUG 05, 02:39 PM
Hey Rei!

CMP, isn't that a course-track? I've never been on one of those, not sure how I'd do since I've never taking the Fiero through it's paces on something like that. If you want to PM me the details and I can ask you some questions, that's cool.

LKN is an awesome shop, if your guy still hasn't done your block, call up Scott and see how much he'd do for the same work, demand a refund from your guy and get over to Scotts place! lol

Before I go to pick it up I'll let you know, I'll likely be heading right from Vixen to Scotts place so he can retune my carb, so we can meet there if it's not too much of a drive for you.

La fiera AUG 06, 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by Trinten:

Hey Rei!

CMP, isn't that a course-track? I've never been on one of those, not sure how I'd do since I've never taking the Fiero through it's paces on something like that. If you want to PM me the details and I can ask you some questions, that's cool.

LKN is an awesome shop, if your guy still hasn't done your block, call up Scott and see how much he'd do for the same work, demand a refund from your guy and get over to Scotts place! lol


Before I go to pick it up I'll let you know, I'll likely be heading right from Vixen to Scotts place so he can retune my carb, so we can meet there if it's not too much of a drive for you.


You'll do fine at the roadcourse and you'll see how fun your Fiero is, specially with that engine. There is chasis dyno not too far from LKN Speed. It's called Taylor's Imports, that is where I do all my dyno tunning. When you're ready to go let me know and I'll take you there. It has a Mustang dyno.

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