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LT188GT MAY 10, 11:27 AM
Forget to take your medicine Alex?
Fiero38SC MAY 10, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by Archie:




While we think the back end of the SC looks cool, we're open to any suggestions you might have.

Archie



Chrome the top and side skirts, paint the now polished "V" orange and the lettering black. Chrome the back of the SC.
troyboy MAY 10, 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by Fiero38SC:


Chrome the top and side skirts, paint the now polished "V" orange and the lettering black. Chrome the back of the SC.



you are so close, as soon as we finish the cuts the covers are set to go out to the chrome shop with other parts. I'm still up in the air about the paint on top of the chrome, may just pinstripe the outlines.

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madcurl MAY 11, 07:40 PM
MORE PICS PLEASE!
Archie MAY 11, 11:13 PM
The last 2 days were spent taking care ofthe little things.

Asside from fitting the coil covers we needed to figure out how things we needing to be mounted & routed.

Before the SC installation both decklid hinges were basically stock. On the right side the SC was going to interfere with the hinge. We had anticipated this before the SC arrived from Edelbrock. The good thing is that our measurements from before the SC arrived indicated that the SC didn't interfere with the pivot pin location on the right side. The whole hinge needed to be modified but we knew it would work because we didn't need to relocate the hinge pins.

To have 2 hinges that are on the same axis you have to have the hinges pins in the same relative position.

Everyone knows what a stock hinge looks like..... in case you don't this is one.....



Our right side hinge, had to have the top half modified & to clear one of the intercooler line fittings the bottom half had to be modified too. When finished it looks like this ...





Wednesday, you could see that we had been modifying the Coil covers.

Before Wednesday's mods they looked like this ...



At the EOD Wednesday they looked like this....



I showed you pics of the covers on the engine on Wednesday, However, that wasn't going to be good enough. Even though there wasn't much left of the front cover, we still needed to be able to open the decklid & to make some clearance in the cover for the modified hinge.....

When that was done the covers looked like this .......





On the engine with the decklid in place.....



To clear the SC we also had to modify the right rib on the underside of the decklid...







By the end of the day, we pulled the engine back out of the car so we can get some welding & cleaning up in the engine compartment

But, first you can see the engine thru the louvers in the decklid... & I had to get a few pics of it....





One thing when you're doing something that hasn't been done before, you have to put together a plan on putting it all together. When taking this engine in & out of the car you have to have the SC removed. Among other things keeping us from leaving it on during R&R is that trhe SC has an intercooler connection that just to the right of the right decklid hinge block & it can't be moved. Also the SC drive is into a notch in the right shock tower by about 3/8". So when removing the SC you need to lift on the rear of the SC to get the pulley up out of the notch it's in & then lift the SC to clear out the intercooler connection.

The one thing that makes this SC low enough that we can get it under the decklid of a Fiero is that instead of having the intercooler under the rotors, you have 2 smaller intercooler mounted above & outboard of the rotors. That makes the top of the SC wider instead of taller.

The problem with that is that the fasteners that bolt the SC to the engine are up under the intercoolers.......



You also have to install these bolts before you install the injectors & fuel rails.

That's all fine & dandy if your installing the SC in a Camaro or 'Vette. On those cars at least you can reach in from either side of the car to do this. On our Fiero with the front side of the Sc top only 2" from the back window, you're going to have a problem.

We planned around this problem by planning to use a floor jack up under the rear of the cradle (with the car on jackstands) & removing the 2 vertical cradle bolts & lowering the back of the cradle a couple of inches to give us more room to do all the assembly on both side of the SC at the same time. We will also be removing both sets of coils to try to get to the fasteners without an universal joint.

That's all for today....... you can have the rest of the day off.

Archie

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85LAMB MAY 12, 12:30 AM
Great job

Archie

What did you use on the back of the trunk lid when fiberglassing that "rib" ?
I mean so that the fiberglass wont "sink" into the grove.
Do you use foam or something similar ?

Also, if possible (pretty please )
Could you please tell me
What is the distance between the floor and the bottom of the back of the engine cradle on Troy's car ?
With the drivetrain in the car and the car on the ground.
I know it might sound crazy but I just want to have a reference point for my little project.
Thank you very much in advace
troyboy MAY 12, 03:38 AM
Great write-up Archie, you guys are doing a great job as always. Just one more thing.... I know we have to repaint the decklid so..... One more mod PLEASE........... I promise it will be the last one. . .(for today that is )


More air flow can't hurt.

The cover for the left side that we are making is going to look great under there. I suck at photoshop so this is the best I could do. If someone wants to take a crack at it ( the cover and the trunk cut-out ) we would greatly appreciate it.

madcurl MAY 12, 12:05 PM
Here's a suggestion. Why not purchase another set of theses.



then flip the the extra set around-then tweak, so that it balances out the engine install put also covers part of the tranny? Cut were the "L" corners are and cut off right before the super charged engraving starts. This will then match the other side near the strut tower. If possible you might be able to join the parts together like the other side so that you end up with 2-large pieces.



You could then add a shaped aluminum plate nearer to the tranny to cover wires and what nots.

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troyboy MAY 12, 04:45 PM
Sounds like a good idea, but I want some of the LS7 to show and the wires will be tucked and not seen . What you will see is the chrome tranny, chrome dry sump oil tank, chrome oil over flow tank....... I want you to see all the separate components that make the odd ball setup work. I don't want my engine compartment to look like one big cover, I want people that know motor setups to be able to appreciate the complexity of what they are looking at. Hell people may think Im using just a cover over a 2.8 , that's why I want them to see those sweet LS7 heads and block with a coilpack or two showing (that's why I had the billet coilpack covers made and chromed.)



but thanks for the input Curly, it is greatly appreciated and wanted. Now if only a few photoshop gurus would step in and clean up my idea for the mini-cover .
Archie MAY 12, 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by 85LAMB:

Great job

Archie

What did you use on the back of the trunk lid when fiberglassing that "rib" ?
I mean so that the fiberglass wont "sink" into the grove.
Do you use foam or something similar ?

Also, if possible (pretty please )
Could you please tell me
What is the distance between the floor and the bottom of the back of the engine cradle on Troy's car ?
With the drivetrain in the car and the car on the ground.
I know it might sound crazy but I just want to have a reference point for my little project.
Thank you very much in advace



We hot glued a flat pc. of think fiberglass sheet in there. Then fiberglassed over it several times.

With all the other stuff we are doing to this car & the GT40 we're building, it will be a few weeks before we have the car back on the ground & on wheels.

I'll try to remember to get a measurement for you then.

Archie