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Archie MAY 04, 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by IwannaIRM:

Just a question.

Why remove the whole drive-train if the supercharger is a "bolt-on" unit? Is this because of the belt problem?



Well there are several reasons we pulled the engine out as part of this installation.

The first reason is that the E-Force kit is a "bolt-on" if you're putting it in a Camaro or Corvette. Sure the Blower bolts to the engine but, It's not a bolt on in a Fiero until someone develops the parts & methods to make it such. One of the reasons is that we have to make the belt drive fit.

If installing the SC into a Camaro or Corvette Edelbrock supplies all the mounts & brackets to make it a bolt in. However the Belt routing on the C. or C. kits won't work on the Fiero. When looking at the front of the engine, this is the typical belt routing that the kits would have...



On the LS installation into the Fiero all of the pullies & idlers you see to the left of the Harmonic Balancer Pulley can't be used because the Fiero shock tower is in the way.

We knew this going into this project. In the original installation of the LS7 into Troy's car we also had to keep everything to the front side of the engine. In this picture the Blue vertical line represents the forward side of the Fiero shock tower...



While it's not completed yet this is a mock-up of what we have on belt routing so far.
(PLEASE NOTE, we don't need to be told that it's not complete yet or that it's not all shined up & pretty yet. That's why it has been pointed out that it's an in process picture......."It's a mock-up".......)



There are several other reasons we took the engine out of the car for this installation.

On the original installation the intake manifold was turned around putting the Throttle Bbody & the C.I.A. on the drivers' side of the engine. With this SC, we have to relocate the C.A.I. To the right side of the engine compartment. Plus the original installation had hoses, electric W/P, P.S. fluid tank & wiring on the right side of the engine compartment. A lot of this stuff has to be re-routed or moved to make room for the C.A.I. & the new belt routing.

Additionally, we have to make 2 small notches in the shock tower to clear parts of the blower. It's easier to make these mods & box them in & repaint the area with the engine out of the car.

Hope that helps

Archie

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Jim88GT MAY 05, 03:49 PM
Any plans to visit the dyno after it's back together to see how much you've gained over the original install? Enjoying the build!

Jim
Archie MAY 05, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by Jim88GT:

Any plans to visit the dyno after it's back together to see how much you've gained over the original install? Enjoying the build!

Jim



Yeah, the plan is to take it to a dyno to upload the programming into the ECM & then test run it.

Troy is going to come back into town for that event & I think during that Dyno session we'll make a few runs.

Archie
IwannaIRM MAY 05, 07:06 PM
Thanks for the detailed answer and the pics of the work in progress Archie. Look forward to seeing the completed project.
LT188GT MAY 05, 07:21 PM
Can I be a back-up test driver?


P L E A S E

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Archie MAY 07, 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by LT188GT:

Can I be a back-up test driver?


P L E A S E




Sure Clem, you've been my 1st choice all along to be the back-up test driver.

I'll let you know when we need a back-up driver.


Archie
Archie MAY 07, 08:12 PM
Got the belt drive done & going to do another fit tomorrow to make sure the mods we've done are good.





Archie
Fiero38SC MAY 08, 02:55 PM
Looks good, but there is not a whole lot of contact area with the Crank and AC compressor. I'm sure you will figure something out.
Archie MAY 08, 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Fiero38SC:

Looks good, but there is not a whole lot of contact area with the Crank and AC compressor. I'm sure you will figure something out.



That's the same contact as we had before & it has worked fine for a couple of years. So we should be good.

Archie
Archie MAY 08, 07:58 PM
Today we have the engine back in the car today.

Testing for fit everywhere & working on setting up the Throttle Body & CAI.

Then figureing where things are going to be routed & how it all going to go together.

Found a place to remount the Electric W/P & Thermostat housing block & working on calculating the routing of hoses.

We will continue on this trial fitting tomorrow.









Notice that the top of the SC is only about 2" from the rear window. We have determined that, on final assembly, we can't install the engine into the car with the SC on the enigne, it has to be put on the engine with the engine in the car. You have to bolt the blower down & then install the injectors & fuel rails in that order. With 2" to work with, that was going to be difficult.

We've determined that on installation after we set the blower onto the engine & start a bolt or 2, we will lower the back end of the engine cradle keeping the front bolts in the cradle. That will piviot the engine away from thew rear window a couple of inches & allow us more room to put everything together.



More tomorrow.

Archie