88 Coupe 4.9 Swap Thread (Page 28/69)
Fieroseverywhere JAN 04, 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by josef644:


Whats the best way to do this? Timing cover on the engine first, then the water pump, and lastly the inlet housing. Or inlet and waterpump on the timing cover , then all of that on the engine?



I put them on the car as a complete unit. Tightening all bolts that don't go into the block. 10mm ones only get 5 ft/lbs (this is very important!!!). Everything that goes into the block gets 29 ft/lbs. Allen heads go under the waterpump pully. Use silicone or equivelant on both sides of all three gaskets. While you have it out make sure none the studs in the timing cover have pulled out. The timing cover should be completely flat everywhere, including where the studs go through. If they were ever over-tightened it will need straightening.

Trust me on this you don't want to have to do it again... especially in the car. Over-do it the first time and you should be safe.
josef644 JAN 04, 03:40 PM
I am guessing that the water pump inlet housing bolts cut their own threads? My inlet housing has no threaded holes

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Rick Morehouse JAN 04, 10:17 PM
Read the whole thread-super work by everyone-was not aware of so many fieros getting a new lease on life. Because I'm not too well
versed in auto electronics, I went the easy way & bought Ed Parks complete 4.9 install kit. I've not done it yet, too many other things
get ahead of the swap. Have one?? I plan to use an 88 rear set up in an 86 , & Mr. Parks had mentioned that the 88 cradle has/had? a weak place--not seen this issue addressed here. NOT saying it does-just wondering if any of you folks are aware or fixed it??

Played w/# just for fun: 92 eldo, 4.9(300 cubes), 200 h.p., 275 lb/ft of torque, weight-3,604 lbs
ea. h.p. carries 18.02 lbs., ea. lb/ft of torque carries 13.01 lbs. ea., 100 h.p. makes 137.5 lb/ft of torque.

same h.p. & torque values in a fiero(I used 2450 lbs); ea. h.p. carries 12.25 lbs., ea. lb/ft of torque carries 8.9 lbs.
It seems ea.h.p. carries 3/4 of a lb. "less" weight & ea. lb/ft of torque carries 5.75 lbs of "less" weight in a fiero compared to a 92 eldo. No wonder our little cars light up when fired up!!

Seems weird; a 1972 eldo w/500 c.i., 400 h.p., 550 lb/ft of torque, weighting 4, 682 lbs & ea. h.p. carried 11.705 lbs & ea. lb/ft of torque carried 8.5 lbs. and it still took 100 h.p. to make the same 137.5 lb/ft of torque. One element not figured in is the RPM's @
which all of these figures accured. Again--super work by all--Rick
josef644 JAN 04, 11:16 PM
The rear section where it meets the driver side welds break and need reinforcement welding. It is addressed somewhere here. I even asked this question in Tech once because I had forgotten where it tended to break loose.
Fieroseverywhere JAN 05, 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by josef644:

I am guessing that the water pump inlet housing bolts cut their own threads? My inlet housing has no threaded holes




Yes.
josef644 JAN 05, 08:02 PM
Worked on exhaust today some. I have the first 90* bend made and ready to put on. This is the one that comes out of the rear manifold. I am gonna do mine sorta like this one below:

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josef644 JAN 07, 03:21 PM
Got into it with NAPA today. The timing cover gasket set says on the box it includes the crankshaft seal, but it wasn't in the box. Their website showes it in the image, but it isn't listed in 'THEIR' included list. It says on the box non returnable after opening. You don't know its missing until you open it. Then it's to late. $8.00 more in the kitty on the first page

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josef644 JAN 11, 07:11 PM
Worked on the water pump/timing cover plate today cleaning it up and installing the new crankshaft seal. Cleanded all of the bolts up and have them ready to go back togeather

Ran across this bolt while cleaning and I am not sure there is a specific hole for this shorter one of the two.


It got up to 47 here today. Was a real nice day.
Formula350 JAN 11, 10:11 PM
Really nice work you're doing here Josef. I am at about the same stage with my SBC swap. I had my engine running in the car a couple weeks ago, but could not get the clutch to operate. So I've pulled everything out to fix that issue, plus all the little cleanup stuff while it's out. I hope to get mine back into the car before the weekend.


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Originally posted by josef644:

The rear section where it meets the driver side welds break and need reinforcement welding. It is addressed somewhere here. I even asked this question in Tech once because I had forgotten where it tended to break loose.



I found your cradle thread here - http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/104429.html

Can anyone shed more light on this cradle issue? I would like to take care of mine while I have it out.

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Fieroseverywhere JAN 12, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by josef644:

Ran across this bolt while cleaning and I am not sure there is a specific hole for this shorter one of the two.



Doesn't look like an original bolt to me. They should all be the same. I've got extras if you need some.