The Official VR6 Engine Swap (Page 28/73)
turboguy327 JUL 05, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by bmwguru:

As for the bumper...I'll leave that for the end. I might swap on a fastback rear clip and I really haven't thought about the body mods yet.
Dave



Dont mean to highjack the thread or anything but I have a rear fastback clip and decklid for cheap if you are interested. I should have everything but the tail lights, 1/4 glass and trunk seal for a fastback swap. If you are interested let me know. Awsome swap by the way. I would love to have the patience and skill you have.
Vonov JUL 15, 01:51 PM
Guru, check out the VW Vortex forum if you need info on how to get a tach signal...don't recall whether you decided to use the VW cluster or not? But then, I'm probably trying to teach my granny to suck eggs, lol...(the reason I mention it, is my local VW guru, whose talents I respect immensely, was scratching his head for six months over getting my tach to work with my VR6 in my MkII (four cylinder) cluster; I found the solution in the Vortex forum in five minutes of searching; it involves taking signal from two of the connectors on top of the VR6 coilpack through 1K ohm resistors, and then joining the two leads to connect to the tach signal input---it's accurate up to 5,000 rpm, after that the tach sort of goes a little goofy, but at least it works now...we're still trying to figure out what's happening in the upper range)
Dennis LaGrua JUL 15, 03:24 PM
Dave: Your install looks nice and I admire your talent, perserverence and creative spirit but next time you might want to take an easier approach to your swaps. A 3800SC or an LS4 will bolt up and just about bolt in. Tuning software is readily available.
You've got to get the award for the weirdest engine swap so far. There was a guy on this forum not long ago that was trying a double four engine swap but I don't believe that he suceeded so the award should be all yours. I just can't imagine the R&D that was required to get your project near completion.

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bmwguru JUL 15, 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

Dave: Your install looks nice and I admire your talent, perserverence and creative spirit but next time you might want to take an easier approach to your swaps. A 3800SC or an LS4 will bolt up and just about bolt in. Tuning software is readily available.
You've got to get the award for the weirdest engine swap so far. There was a guy on this forum not long ago that was trying a double four engine swap but I don't believe that he suceeded so the award should be all yours. I just can't imagine the R&D that was required to get your project near completion.




Dennis,
Thanks. I just didn't want to do a belly button swap. I almost went with a turbo 3800, but I really don't know those engines very well. I work on VW VR6 engines everyday and have done just about every possible repair on them. I could take the engine apart in my sleep...the 3800 not so much. I spent about six months researching the swap and had a few snags along the line. My delay now is the fact of so much customer's cars at my shop and not enough hours in the day. I'm also trying to modify my V8 a little bit to take it to the track this month and I have my daily driver Fiero that I am doing extensive work on at the same time.
If all goes well, I hopefully should have the shifter mounted and functional within the next ten days (or nights).
Dave
ps....if you think this swap is abnormal, my gold GT swap will be really out there...but that will be a 2009 swap.


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bmwguru JUL 16, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by bmwguru:

ps....if you think this swap is abnormal, my gold GT swap will be really out there...but that will be a 2009 swap.





This is for Austrian Import.....This swap is in our R&D section of our shop right now....will it make it into a Fiero??? Maybe.

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THE BEAST JUL 16, 11:28 AM
Its that an 8 cyl engine or am I seeing double today??

JG
Fastback 86 JUL 16, 12:50 PM
That's the W8 isn't it?
bmwguru JUL 16, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by Fastback 86:

That's the W8 isn't it?



yes it is. I have the opportunity to pick up the engine at a reasonable cost, but before I do, I'll be making sure that it will fit in the back of my other Fiero....maybe with a twin turbo setup.
Anyway, I do one swap at a time, so I need to finish up the VR6 swap before I start building the Ultimate 8 cylinder swap.
Dave

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Erik JUL 16, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by bmwguru:





what is the double shafts on the lower right..counter balance?
bmwguru JUL 16, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by Vonov:

Guru, check out the VW Vortex forum if you need info on how to get a tach signal...don't recall whether you decided to use the VW cluster or not? But then, I'm probably trying to teach my granny to suck eggs, lol...(the reason I mention it, is my local VW guru, whose talents I respect immensely, was scratching his head for six months over getting my tach to work with my VR6 in my MkII (four cylinder) cluster; I found the solution in the Vortex forum in five minutes of searching; it involves taking signal from two of the connectors on top of the VR6 coilpack through 1K ohm resistors, and then joining the two leads to connect to the tach signal input---it's accurate up to 5,000 rpm, after that the tach sort of goes a little goofy, but at least it works now...we're still trying to figure out what's happening in the upper range)



Thanks for the info. I'll probably use VDO aftermarket gauges though. I left all the wiring for the factory cluster in the connectors, but the Jetta cluster is too plain to wind up in a Fiero. I'm a member of Vortex, but not that active there. It is really easy to get lost there. If you search VR6 Fiero in that forum, my car is mentioned a few times by their members that have come to my shop and happened to see it.
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As for the picture, that is the balance shafts for the W8. The swap is still being kicked around. I come across a lot of German engines that other shops are looking to get rid of for a good price, so that is just one of the ideas kicking around in my head. We were also kicking around the idea of a Quattro Fiero, but I'm not a huge fan of the Quattros...and that would require a lot of custom fabrication. One of the other swaps we are planning isn't engine related. I have a cool power steering idea that will be unique and may actually be marketable as a kit in a bolt on in a few hours.
I just need 32 hours in a day and I think my body might catch up to my mind.
Dave