Choptop #025 "FIEROciousGT" Build (Page 26/37)
madcurl FEB 07, 07:08 PM
Archie FEB 07, 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by FierociousGT:

I see FedEx was able to deliver the Diablo replica mirrors today.



We got the windshield in today.

The mirrors did come in. I'm getting together a few posts on them now.....



Archie
Archie FEB 07, 10:23 PM
Yes the mirrors came in today.

Please note, there is no mirror glass, what you see is what you get.

Here is a mirror growing out of a flat piece of fiberglass.....



Well, not really actually growing out of it.



Two hollow interrupted rods run from the base to the mirror section. Inside the rods are 2 coil springs holding the base & the mirror section together. The other ends of these springs are in the mirror section behind the black mirror mount.....



Where the 2 mirror sections come together there is flat rubber stock between the 2 pieces. The rubber was cut very unevenly with a razor knife by a drunk. (hard to see in the pics., easy to see in person)



Here's the funny part that makes you say to yourself "What were they thinking?"

You can see the wire pigtail in the 1st picture I posted & you can see no wires coming out the other end in the 2nd. & 3rd. pics I posted. Here's why, the pigtail was all stuffed in the area around the mirror motor deal.



"What were they thinking?"

Now someone will have to remove the plug from one end of the pigtail remove all the hardware out of the mirror hole. Then weave the 3 wires down one of the rods without tangling in the coil spring. Then put it all back together.

It seems it would have been a lot easier to do all that when the mirror was 1st put together.



Next: We get to go out & see how the mirror is going to fit.

Remember how nice it fit in the photoshops, I'll bet it won't be that easy.

Archie
FierociousGT FEB 07, 10:30 PM
Archie FEB 07, 11:21 PM
Plotting to find a way to mount the mirror.

As we hold the big base on the mirror bottom plate up to the car at about the same angle that we used on Curley's & Troy's cars it appears that mirror can be mounted to where it will be level.





Now comes the tough part.......

Here is the opening that we have to mount the mirror into.....



In the past when we mounted the 360 mirrors & the F430 mirrors we used this triangle, with right end of line "C" about 3/4" down into the door panel, to mount them into a chopped Fiero.

However, when you build a triangle with the same "A", "B" & "C" angles around the base of the new mirror you get a lot bigger triangle. You get a much bigger triangle because the base of the mirror where the legs meet the big flat plate, is a much larger & more rectangular area that it was on the Ferrari mirrors.



I've taken a lot of measurements & made some templates, but this last template is the most important one. It represents the minimum area patch that the base of the mirror has to have. This area is identified as "Body" on this template. Note how one of the legs is going to violate the "A" pillar by a couple of inches.



Archie

P.S.

David, give me a call tomorrow, you have some decissions to make.


88White3.4GT FEB 07, 11:52 PM
madcurl FEB 08, 01:40 AM
FierociousGT FEB 08, 05:12 AM
Archie, I'll call you in the morning. I'm also going to PM MMBrazil @ KitCentral.com to see if he pops in and can give some ideas regarding his mirrors. Kudos for the detail plotting data & explination in your post.

I have the mirror (glass) template, which I'll take care of down here and if I'm not mistaken those mirrors can separate in the middle. Don't worry about the electrical part, as long as I can access the stock mirror wires.

If there is no other way around the "A" pilar then I will just have you mount the triangle on the doors, cover the original mirror hole and I'll deal w/ the mirrors once #25 is down here.

The power door locks are on the way and I will order the '82-'85 Mustang fiberglass vent today.

TTYL

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SAFASTRO FEB 08, 11:03 AM
WOW!!!!!
This is coming along just great! I love what you guys are doing here.
And if my opinion counts for anything, I like option D the best for your decklid scoop!
And those mirrors look awesome!!! Can't wait to see em mounted!

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2" Choptop
Shortened Front Bumper
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10" Stretch
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350 V8 Conversion

FierociousGT FEB 08, 12:18 PM
SAFASTRO, yes your opinion does count. I'm going to do VERSION "D" deck vent.

Spoke with Archie about 30min ago regarding the mirrors. If I understood correctly the separation of the bolts is greater then the triangle area on the door. Asked Archie to drill thru the triangle area to confirm if there was a metal plate, negative, so can't relocate the bolts.



Violates "A" pillar.. sounds painful.


We will mount the metal mirror triangle and patch the stock mirror openings. I'll have to modify the replica mirrors bolt spacing here in Orlando. Now it's official, #25 won't be at D8. Now on to the rear deck lid...

PS
Archie more kudos for you and your team, Doug from Fiero Warehouse left me a message today that the car looks incredible!

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