1927 Pontiac Fiero (Page 26/41)
toddshotrods DEC 22, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:
Looking good!...


Thanks


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...Aged aluminum seat accent...


I like that idea, and will be experimenting with it in future models.


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...Will it have handles outside or reach in and open? I'm guessing the later. Suicide doors of course...


No handles - no doors. To quote myself from the text in one of my art renderings on my site, "...Mount your rump on the sill, swing 'em up and over, slide down into the... racing seats... and pretend you're really a race car driver..."



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...Will the throttle body be a modern single unit or a dual side carb-look with Inglese stacks?...


Undecided and testing different options; especially since I moved the mufflers down.



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Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:
...Fenders? nah... Tonneau cover covering the back seats?... Mini roll bars behind the back seats?...

Bonnet mounted mirrors...


Definitely nah. Could be an option. Maybe - I have been trying to decide about a roll bar or cage assembly, but need to get the basic vehicle ironed out and see what works with it. That could actually be the deciding factor on how far I go with the performance issue. It will definitely have some caging built into the chassis inside the cockpit; I'm just not sure how far it will extend up and how well it will conform to specific sanctioning rules. There will definitely be "door" bars for side impact protection though.



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Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:
...Here's another car to check out:...


That's an awesome little car!
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Gokart Mozart DEC 23, 09:25 AM
Gas tank placement. pull body away from engine. gonna be a tight squeeze with the radiator there also but the tank will hide it a bit.

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toddshotrods DEC 23, 10:20 AM
Not for me. If you look back at the previous renderings you'll notice that even when the gas tank was between the body and engine it was down very low. The reason was safety. As awesome as that looks with the gas tank mounted high on the back of the body tub, I would NEVER ride in traffic in a car like that!!! I have never heard of it happening but if one of those cars was rear-ended and that gas tank is ruptured the driver and passenger are going to burn from the head down

The vehicle that fails to stop in time will ride right over the rear wheels into the gas tank. A likely result would be gas dousing the cockpit with fuel. Just one little spark... With my car they would push the engine right into that tank, with basically the same result. The way I had it before, I was hoping that if the accident was severe enough to rupture the tank the flames would be trapped under the engine and body long enough to escape - closer to how it might play out in a normal car. Now, with the tank completely enclosed between the frame rails, and fully covered by the floor pan, it should be much harder to even rupture it; and allow much more time to escape...

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Gokart Mozart DEC 23, 12:02 PM
Baby moon radiator overflow tank then?
toddshotrods DEC 23, 12:20 PM
Something similar. I actually have a line of tanks I am working on, and the coolant tank on this vehicle should be the debut of the line. I'd tell you more but I'd have to kill you

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toddshotrods DEC 23, 01:37 PM


This is the basic idea. I could have sworn the one I sat in had a mesh seating area as well, but it wasn't on their website (Office Depot).

I see something gelling for the interior. I need to do some sketching or modeling to show you guys what I have in my head...

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Gokart Mozart DEC 24, 08:56 AM

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Mirrors:





Lights (headlights, marker, taillights)?
toddshotrods DEC 25, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by eph_kay:
...Also if you want to incorporate the round sloping back end of the older style car's you could always add in some small sloping upper frame rails in the back, and work your suspension off that, but i still think working the leaf spring would be cooler, the rounded look could be accomplished with the upper rails...



Your suggestion stuck in my head because I love the shape of the deck on 28-32 Fords, and it appears from the photos that Pontiac already had that style in 1927. I also love my exposed powertrain, and your idea gave me an idea of how to have my cake and eat it too.

I decided to try it in bodywork. The deck "rails" would be a part of the body. The rendering just shows an outer skin but on the real thing they would be three-dimensional - boxed on the bottom sides. The half-round body side molding would run from the grille, down the side of the body, all the way down to the end of the rail. It would taper at the ends, down to nothing. At the bottom of the rails I would have cups to hold the tail lights. I'll model all this eventually.

Whadda ya guys think?

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Gokart Mozart DEC 26, 12:55 PM
It looks incomplete. Can you put in the rear suspension? If the struts connect with the bars that'll give it purpose.
toddshotrods DEC 26, 03:00 PM

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...The rear suspension is the stock Fiero type lower arms and knuckle with transverse, quarter-elliptic leaf springs to replace the struts. I still have a LOT of design work and modeling to do to make this a reality, but the concept makes the Fiero-derived rear suspension fit the project...


Someone was sleep in class (j/k ) there aren't any struts. The leaf springs replace them. I knew it was a hot/cold idea. Either people would "see" the 27's rear deck in the rails, or think someone forgot to finish building the body. I wanted to see which...

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