Project XTC - The Rehabilitation! (Page 18/47)
RCR DEC 09, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by FallenShadow 2m4:

The car is turning out great I'm just trying to figure out what XTC stands for lol.




XTC = ecstacy

ec⋅sta⋅sy  /ˈɛkstəsi/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ek-stuh-see] Show IPA
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–noun, plural -sies. 1. rapturous delight.
2. an overpowering emotion or exaltation; a state of sudden, intense feeling.
3. the frenzy of poetic inspiration.
4. mental transport or rapture from the contemplation of divine things.


madcurl DEC 09, 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by katatak:

Madcurl,

As promised, here are some pics with the hood up. Tell me what you think! Where should I locate the actuators? Looks like there may be room ahead of the front wheel well on the outside of the frame rail or inboard of the headlight's. Thanks for any insight yu may have. I think I blew a disc just opening the hood to get these shots.....

Pat








Yeah, that looks about right. Keep in mind V8Archie used a flat metal plate that was glassed into the hood. The plate helped distribute the weight within the 6 x 8" square metal plate.




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DL10 DEC 09, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by RCR:


XTC = ecstacy




That is how I always pronounced it.......but i think it has something to do with the name of the original designer and builder

Group XTC was owned by a man named Tom Clark. This was the first kit I seriously thought about buying.
The car I bought has the designer and builders name in it's name too...... The DL in DL10 Predator stands for Don Lee and the 10 is what he thought it was on a scale of 1 to 10.

Here's a link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hmeWmkr3b8

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katatak DEC 09, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by RCR:


XTC = ecstacy

ec⋅sta⋅sy  /ˈɛkstəsi/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ek-stuh-see] Show IPA
Use ecstasy in a Sentence
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–noun, plural -sies. 1. rapturous delight.
2. an overpowering emotion or exaltation; a state of sudden, intense feeling.
3. the frenzy of poetic inspiration.
4. mental transport or rapture from the contemplation of divine things.




That fits the car and the fun I have driving it! I honestly never thought of it that way but it fits......Good one RCR!
katatak DEC 09, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by madcurl:


Yeah, that looks about right. Keep in mind V8Archie used a flat metal plate that was glassed into the hood. The plate helped distribute the weight within the 6 x 8" square metal plate.









Thanks Madcurl, I went back through your build thread and was looking at the way Archie mounted the actuators. I am pretty sure I can mount them in the same spot. I may have to cut some holes and do some welding plus add some more support (piece of plate) to the hood but thanks to you and Archie, I won't be reinventing the "wheel". Big props to you guys for what you do and your willingmess to help and share. I have been informed that I have to wait till after Xmas to get the actuators. I wonder what will be under the tree this year? Thanks again!

Pat
katatak DEC 09, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by DL10:


That is how I always pronounced it.......but i think it has something to do with the name of the original designer and builder

Group XTC was owned by a man named Tom Clark. This was the first kit I seriously thought about buying.
The car I bought has the designer and builders name in it's name too...... The DL in DL10 Predator stands for Don Lee and the 10 is what he thought it was on a scale of 1 to 10.

Here's a link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hmeWmkr3b8



Thanks for the info DL10. All I really know about the original designer/owner is that they were out of Florida. Bloozeberry sent me a pamphlet about the XTC from the origianl manufacturer. There is one for sale on Craigslist in Las Cruses, NM about 40 miles North of here. I am tempted to go take a look at it, but the pics on CL look rough. They are askin 4k for it. I believe that's a little steep for one in that condition but you never know! We certainly do not see any of them around here.

Pat


Sofa King DEC 09, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by katatak:

Man you work fast Greg. Now if you could just whip out all the parts in the next day or so, I think I could put it together by Monday....I can not let my 16 year old see this..... I will be on the hook to get it done!

Pat



LOL But isn't that what dad's are for?
FallenShadow 2m4 DEC 10, 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by RCR:


XTC = ecstacy

ec⋅sta⋅sy  /ˈɛkstəsi/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ek-stuh-see] Show IPA
Use ecstasy in a Sentence
See web results for ecstasy
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–noun, plural -sies. 1. rapturous delight.
2. an overpowering emotion or exaltation; a state of sudden, intense feeling.
3. the frenzy of poetic inspiration.
4. mental transport or rapture from the contemplation of divine things.




K thx, but the all of the definitions of ecstasy is a lil much. Lol I may be blond but I'm not stupid..

I guess I was to blond to pronounce XTC like ecstasy instead I always pronouced it X-T-C.. Lol my bad..

But hey, I mean even katatak was as much in the dark as I was lol..

Anyway, looking good man.. Keep it up.

Edit to make myself look a little less like a *ss

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katatak DEC 26, 07:51 PM
I got some outer dew wipes and remote door locks for my son/XTC for Christmas. The plan was for him to install them on the - kind of a first "on his own" type project. Man was I wrong....lol. Not completely his fault though as we ran into some issues with the driver's door once we got the door panel and outer skin off. First issue was that all the clips on the inside of the door panel are fubar'd. I will have to spend some time with epoxy and maybe some fiberglass to fix it up. I am sure the passenger side is in the same shape. Also the 2 metal clip brackets at the top of the panel were ripped off the panel and then hot glued back on. It looks like when it was installed that the plastic clip did not line up with the hole in the door so the PO pounded on the door panel till the metal bracket caved in. I'll have to peel them off, straighten them out and probably glass them back onto the panel.

This car has no key locks on the doors so there is no way to lock the car. The PO decided that it would be better to disassemble the door lock mechanisim so that the door would never be "accidentally" locked. I have a set of donor doors that I will eventually install on the car but for now, I just want to get the door locks working as my son will start driving this car to school and work next week. We neded up using parts off the donor doors to get these working. There were some other issues with the way the door was mounted that I had to fix before I could do anything else. Most my time spent today was fixing all the little things that were wrong with the drivers door.

Here's what I got accomplished today.

Once I figured out how to use this tool, it makes taking the window handle off way easier:


Door stripped:



Here's a shot of the "craftsmanship" used to put this car together. Not the huge flat washers used on the hinge bolts because too much of the door was cut away to get the hinges to fit. Just one of the little things I will have to fix.


I had to figure out where I was going to mount the actuator for the remote locks. I have seen a few that were mounted in the same area as the factory actuators but they seemed to cause a slight bulge in the door panel. Fortunately on the XTC, the door skins are "deep" enough, I was able to mount the actuator on the outside of the door. This will work out good when I install key locks later on:



Once it was mounted, it was time to wire it. Now I am electrically challenged so it took me a little trial and error to get the wiring ran and routed and tied down.

My first attempt: Not too sanitary!


The final product:


Next on tap was installing the new outer dew wipe. The inner one was pretty well shot too but I have a few spares laying around so I was not too worried. I had a slight advantage with the door stripped but it was still a PITA. The heads of all the screws were rusted and stripped so I had to break out the vice grips and take each one out the slow way. The easiest way to do this was to yank out the old dew wipe so that I could get to the heads of the screws:


Then turn em out a little at a time:


The familiar "DIY_Stu" Dew Wipes:


They go in way easier than they come out and I must say, the fit is perfect:




I had some "spare" inner dew wipes that are in a lot better shape than the originals however, they are hard as a rock. Once the new outer was installed and the "spare" inner was installed, the window was very tight to roll up - more so near the top. I could even hear the inner one cracking. I will be ordering new inner dew wipes on Monday:

The original inner all cracked up:


The spare:


That's it for today. Tomorrow the plan is to finish the Driver side and get started on the Passenger side.

"MCaHNY"

Pat
katatak DEC 27, 06:43 PM
Starting off where I left it last night, I managed to get the drivers door nearly complete today. It fought me every step of the way but in the end, I won!

My dilema was the fact that there would be no way to "manually" unlock the doors from outside. If the battery went dead or the remote actuators died, I'd be stuck with no way to get into the car. I spent a lot of time looking at it today. I must have had the outer door skin on and off 2 dozen times.

The first issue to deal with today was the fact that they guy that built this car filled the inside of the door skin with foam. The foam itself did not add a lot of weight and is a good sound deadener but it was full of dirt and the bottom of the door skin weighted about 80 pounds. I used a bg knife and carved out a lot of the foam but I left some in the door for the sound dampening. I found a nice mouse nest and the source of the foul odor in the car.

Lots of foam in the door:


A nice little surprize:


Trimmed out a lot of foam:


Another issue I had to fix on the door skin were the fastners - well nuts. I can not remember what they are called but they are an aluminum well nut that uses a special tool to intstall them - crimps the nut and creates 2 flanges on either side of the panel. These work good in metal panels but they just get loose in fiberglass and make it near impossible to get the bolts out once they get loose. I spent a couple hours today running around to hardware stores and auto parts stores looking for a suitable replacement. I ended up getting some "U" nuts and body bolts. They worked out perfect:


While hunting for the "U" nuts, I found a keyed lock that I thought I could use for my "manual" door unlock. After another dozen or so on and offs of the door skin, I got the keyed lock mounted and devised a way to make it work. It took several attempts but the final setup works perfect. Now if the battery goes dead or the actuators quit working, at least the door can be unlocked with a key. This pic shows my initial attempt to get the key lock to work. I simply bent an "L" in the actuator rod so that the keyed lock arm would make contact and push the rod and assembly to the unlock position. The theory was good but there was too much movement in the assembly and the bent leg of the rod was too long and rubbed the inside of the door skin. Several more attempts of this idea were made until I came up with one that worked. The first one is the only one I took a pic of.


The outside of the keyed lock:


The inside of the keyed lock. The arm strikes a bend I made in the main lock rod and pushes it backwards to unlock the door. It only works for unlocking but it serves the purpose of an "emergency" unlock.


And the last thing I did today was install a new carbon fiber shift knob.


This evening I will epoxy some clip mounts back on the door panel and hopefully tommorow I can finish up the drivers door and get the passenger side on it's way. I suspect I will run into the same problems with foam, well nuts and door panel. I think the wiring will be straight forward.

Pat