"concept GTR" dash build-up...Fie Ro style! ;) (Page 18/56)
David DeVoe FEB 16, 05:01 PM
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Kohburn FEB 18, 10:00 AM
had a thought on this.. you mentioned audi swaps to VW's does that mean the VW clusters are cheap? and could be swapped to a fiero?
Fie Ro FEB 18, 10:47 AM
Yes many VW's share the "same" cluster, audi TT and Golf4 interchange.....I got some pinouts today from someone from a UK TT forum....oh well heres his mail:
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Roderick,

While nothing is impossible I think you are underestimating the complexity
of what you are trying to do...Your biggest problem will be to disable the
immobilizer chip - which wont be easy as the immobilizer code must tie up
with the code read by the transponder off a key, so unless you have the
matching key you will need to get one (and the matching barrel) and somehow
persuade an Audi dealer to recode the pod to the key...which he wont do
unless its in a car.. I ahve heard of a (dubious) organisation that claims
to be able to do the recodes independently of Audi but have no idea who they
are. Unless the immobilzer is disabled the pod will not function
sufficiently to be useful... you cant see the key and barrel in my pic...

Secondly, once you managed the above problem, the pod then looks for the
engine management system over the high-speed CANBus (even the early ones
with no 'Comfort' CANBus still do this). If it can't find it then various
alarms go off... and the pod disables many functions and the DIS will show
an DEF warning although the basics are usable...

For speedo and rev counter you will need to supply pulses at the appropriate
rate, pulse width, voltage and shape... 1 pulse per mph and 1 pulse per rev

For temp and fuel gauges you will need to provide appropriate variable
resistances to sensor ground and calibrate them, mimicing the TT's temp and
fuel senders

Anyhow, here are the pinouts and other info you may find useful... good luck

Irving...
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Now I only want use the speedo/tacho/coolant temp/fuel level gauges and turn lights/warning lights so I hope I can work around all the digital stuff..the connector itself has individual pins for the input of the above....the trick is to make them function right

does this match up with the fiero?:
For speedo and rev counter you will need to supply pulses at the appropriate
rate, pulse width, voltage and shape... 1 pulse per mph and 1 pulse per rev

Kohburn FEB 18, 10:57 AM
hmm ok - sound slike I'll be rearanging the fiero cluster with a custom faceplate after all..

just seems so much easier to design a laminat faceplate that changes the apearance of the dash while using the stock mechanicals after rearanging them.

Kohburn FEB 18, 11:13 AM
this was a VERY rough thing i tossed together with mspaint to show what I had in mind not too long ago

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/kohburn/rearanged-cluster.jpg

[This message has been edited by Kohburn (edited 02-27-2005).]

Fie Ro FEB 20, 07:14 PM
You might be able to pull it off with most of the stock faces and a custom bezel...a quick idea:


Most of the stock gauges are standalone units, only the rally gauges share 1 printplate... You might need to hack that one when getting these gauges closer together if you want to fit all of them in the stock size cluster space

I am slowly moving on with the TT cluster, splicing and cutting of an old scsi cable...taking my time for all this before I loose track...

Got some things going but since its cold outside I played with the doorskin thingie too..so far...

would like some polished doorhandles too...
hope you still enjoy it....

[This message has been edited by Fie Ro (edited 02-20-2005).]

JazzMan FEB 20, 08:22 PM
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Kohburn FEB 22, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by JazzMan:

I like that layout, the only change I would make is to swap the tack and speedo. It always seemed to me that the tach should be the more prominant of the two.

Awesome work!

JazzMan


yeah I haven't gotten around to reduing it at home with my image files for the 150mph speedo

but I plan to increase the diameter of the center guage.. and I'm also thinking about flipping the extra guages to the right side.. we'll see

Fie Ro FEB 22, 03:48 PM
..I want to keep the equal left/right sized speedo/tach orientation like the stock fiero setup. Its hard to find a nice aftermarket set of those gauges, usually most tachs are big standalone units. thats why I try this audi dash thingie first.If it doesnt work with all the digital ssht inside I might just mockup the fierogauges and use the TT's faceplate and bezel...I like a "balanced" look..
Kohburn FEB 23, 06:53 AM
like this?

i'm thinking more enlarged center tach