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opm2000
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NOV 22, 02:27 PM
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I've been wondering about the space createdby the new wheel flares and would appreciate any thoughts you all might have. Look at drawing A. It shows the fiberglass body and new flare in crossection. Right now, the bottom edge is "straight & level" and fairs directly into the stock wheel well trim line. The thought here is this will help greatly when the builder fits the flare onto the body. The bottom edges match the stock opening exactly, and the outer "fender edges" are faired to fit onto the body. The outer skin recieves a layer of fiberglass cloth for permanant attachment. Now the bottom edge can either be glassed on in a similar fashion, or the space can be opened up by removing some of the flare and some of the stock fender....and then glassed in. 
Now look at drawing B. It shows essentially the same thing except Here we have removed enough of the foam to come close to where the Fiero inner fender liner is. This means we are looking at two completely different plugs for the wheel flares. This option would have the benefit of being pre cut to accomodate large tires or wider spaced tires. But it would not have the convience of matching up to the stock wheel opening for initial alignment. Which way should I make this? Seems like you could accomplish the same end result with either design. David Breeze
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The Black Widow
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NOV 22, 03:31 PM
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David: wish i could tell ya, I would think B would be better for an more authenic look, since you can acomidate much larger tires. They both seem good, that would be the only reason I like B though. Keep us posted, this is an awesome build! Cant wait to see it when I come home! -Matt
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Jake_Dragon
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NOV 22, 04:36 PM
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Why not trim the inside and make a new liner?
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opm2000
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NOV 23, 10:21 AM
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Both good points, and that got the wheels turning. Blackrams was giving a bit of input this weekend while helping on the second flare. His concern all along has been to devise a way to tie in or fasten down the inner fender liners. I checked the front end of the yellow prototype car, to see again where the stock fender liner sets in relation to the stock Pantero wheel well outline. The Fiero liner generally parallels the Pantero outline on the majority of the front and back sides of the circle. Between 10 oclock and 2 oclock, the Fiero liner transitions from right on the Pantero outline...to a higher point (above the outline) which is at a maximum at 12 oclock. If that's clear, then yes, a new liner, or transition piece would be in order. What I'm thinking is to create the flare molds and new flares with the straight & level bottom, as in drawing A. This makes it very easy to align the flare to the body, and to get it right. Once attached to the body, the builder would only have to take a Dremel and cut off a slice of the bottom section between 10 oclock and 2 oclock, leaving a 1/2" +/- lip in the cutout area. To this lip a new liner or transition liner could be attached. Bear in mind, we are working on the front fenders right now, the clearances will be somewhat different for the rears. Now, all this wide flare business brings about the question...how do you economically get either a wider stance for your wheels & tires....or where do you find wider wheels. I'm thinking 275 to 315 on the rear and maybe 245 or so on the front. I'm not a big fan of droping big bucks on a whole new front end, or on custom built wheels. David Breeze [This message has been edited by opm2000 (edited 11-23-2004).]
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VISCERAL
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DEC 05, 09:44 AM
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opm2000
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DEC 07, 06:34 AM
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 Sorry for the poor pics 
The foam has been covered with fine grade Bondo several times. At first filling the foam to provide a stiff skin to work with. Then filling pinholes. Then looking for low areas. At each filling I've sanded using 80 grit to knock down high spots and do general shaping. This has about gone it's course and I,m ready to shoot on a coat of primer, then sand most of it off, in search of the final smooth surface. The overall shape has turned out pretty well. The front of the flares will blend right in with the add on air dam, and the back of the flares will blend right into the enlarged "runningboard " type sideskirts. David Breeze
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RCR
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DEC 07, 10:22 AM
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shawnkfl
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DEC 07, 12:11 PM
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ok. i'm sold! i've been looking at other kits but i'm now sold on this one. i love the lins and look of the pantera. i'll be patiently waiting for one of these!!
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VISCERAL
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DEC 08, 01:26 AM
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blackrams
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DEC 08, 07:23 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by shawnkfl: ok. i'm sold! i've been looking at other kits but i'm now sold on this one. i love the lins and look of the pantera. i'll be patiently waiting for one of these!! | | Patience is a virtue, this is work! 
Dave is producing a very user friendly kit, if I can do it, anyone can.
------------------ Ron aka: Blackrams Fieros
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