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Archie MAY 13, 10:30 PM
Here's a picture of the real Miura chassis.



Not much of a roll cage there.

An all aluminum body went on this chassis. No Rollcage, just aluminum.

This was never a crashworthy car by today's standards and with the modifications we are doing to the Fiero chassis, it is vastly superior to the real thing which now can sell for a half a million dollars on up.

Jay Leno has two and drives the S model fairly regularly.

Tell your buddys that none of my hack jobs has fell apart yet.

Maybe they could actually read the thread before speculating about how it's going to turn out. Instead of just bashing without even reading to find facts.

Those idiots need to get a job so they one day can build a couple of cars to show us all how it's supposed to be done.

Until then they should get a life.

How's it feel hanging out with a bunch of wanna-bes?

Archie
DeLorean00 MAY 13, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by Archie:

Here's a picture of the real Miura chassis.


Not much of a roll cage there.

An all aluminum body went on this chassis. No Rollcage, just aluminum.

This was never a crashworthy car by today's standards and with the modifications we are doing to the Fiero chassis, it is vastly superior to the real thing which now can sell for a half a million dollars on up.

Jay Leno has two and drives the S model fairly regularly.

Tell your buddys that none of my hack jobs has fell apart yet.

Maybe they could actually read the thread before speculating about how it's going to turn out. Instead of just bashing without even reading to find facts.

Those idiots need to get a job so they one day can build a couple of cars to show us all how it's supposed to be done.

Until then they should get a life.

How's it feel hanging out with a bunch of wanna-bes?

Archie



I agree. I think your chassis is simply beautiful. I love the area where the wipers were, it looks great! Don't let it bother you, this car is something amazing. When its done it will be a solid work of art.

Just a thought off topic, do you think you could put a V8 in one of my DeLoreans?
myfierogt MAY 14, 02:52 PM
How can anyone use the term "wannabe" and be building a Muira(fiero) at the same time? I find that hilarious.

Archie do you act like this towards anyone that doesnt share the same opinion of you?
couldahadaV8 MAY 14, 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by Fastback 86:

I also notice that the frame you've rebuilt out of square tubing is not bent at all, it is instead comprised of many, many joints. I don't doubt your guys know how to weld, it's just that I've always been taught that when building a roll cage or tube frame, you want to have as few joints as possible as they are weaker than uninterrupted tubing.



Looking at the pictures of the rear frame, I think it looks very strong. The strongest frame you can have is straight sections without any bends. Bends look nice but what happens to a bent section when you push on the ends (as in a crash); it bends in further. Look at the rectangular frame welded into the main Fiero frame. Looks like very good crash protection to me. If welding is done properly, in theory it is stronger than an uninterupted section since it is thicker where the weld is.

Rick
gunslinger MAY 14, 03:43 PM
Just put some 90 degree gussets to firm it up and you are good to go.
Erik MAY 14, 03:58 PM
that frame is solid the way it is ..nice job Archie and associates

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bubbajoexxx MAY 14, 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by Archie:

Here's a picture of the real Miura chassis.



Not much of a roll cage there.

An all aluminum body went on this chassis. No Rollcage, just aluminum.

This was never a crashworthy car by today's standards and with the modifications we are doing to the Fiero chassis, it is vastly superior to the real thing which now can sell for a half a million dollars on up.

Jay Leno has two and drives the S model fairly regularly.

Tell your buddys that none of my hack jobs has fell apart yet.

Maybe they could actually read the thread before speculating about how it's going to turn out. Instead of just bashing without even reading to find facts.

Those idiots need to get a job so they one day can build a couple of cars to show us all how it's supposed to be done.

Until then they should get a life.

How's it feel hanging out with a bunch of wanna-bes?

Archie




the whole drivers compartment and doors of the muira are all steel only the front and rear hoods were aluminum skined over a steel framework







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GKDINC MAY 14, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by myfierogt:

How can anyone use the term "wannabe" and be building a Muira(fiero) at the same time? I find that hilarious.

Archie do you act like this towards anyone that doesnt share the same opinion of you?


Oh the newbie's, if they would only do some research. Archie has been doing this longer than some of them have been on this earth.
Looks good Archie.
Have a Great Day
Gary
Fastback 86 MAY 14, 07:40 PM

quote
Originally posted by Archie:

Here's a picture of the real Miura chassis.



Not much of a roll cage there.

An all aluminum body went on this chassis. No Rollcage, just aluminum.

This was never a crashworthy car by today's standards and with the modifications we are doing to the Fiero chassis, it is vastly superior to the real thing which now can sell for a half a million dollars on up.

Jay Leno has two and drives the S model fairly regularly.

Tell your buddys that none of my hack jobs has fell apart yet.

Maybe they could actually read the thread before speculating about how it's going to turn out. Instead of just bashing without even reading to find facts.

Those idiots need to get a job so they one day can build a couple of cars to show us all how it's supposed to be done.

Until then they should get a life.

How's it feel hanging out with a bunch of wanna-bes?

Archie



I assume you're talking to me, and I'll direct you back to what I've already said:

"That's nice to hear, but it's the same as saying this run down old house is a-ok because it hasn't been condemned yet. The mere fact that other people are building unsafe cars doesn't make this one safe, just safer by comparison. However, in comparison to a stock Fiero spaceframe, it's probably not as safe. And again, if it's never going to see a city street, it's a moot point."

The fact that it's better than the original doesn't automatically make it safe. You've compromised all of the Fiero's crumple zones and weakened the roof structure. I'm sure it will work fine for driving around, but I wouldn't want to be in a crash in it any more than I would want to be in a crash in a real Miura.

And you're a fine one to talk about wanna-be's as you build a knock-off Lamborghini out of an admittedly poor kit.
Fastback 86 MAY 14, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by GKDINC:

Oh the newbie's, if they would only do some research. Archie has been doing this longer than some of them have been on this earth.
Looks good Archie.
Have a Great Day
Gary



And? I've been changing my oil longer than some people have been on the earth, but it doesn't make me an expert on the subject. On top of that, he only started doing chop tops a few years ago.