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The Poopsmith JUL 30, 02:15 PM
I kind of like the exposed engine. But after all my quick thoughts on that look, it's probably illegal and would compromise reliability. Are you gathering parts to start working on it or are you building anything yet?
fieroguru JUL 30, 04:11 PM
I love the idea of the exposed engine! The only downside would be keeping the frame rails and struts simple and clean so they do not detract from the engine.

I would not expect the exposed engine to be illegal, many of the rat rods run with exposed engines....
Gokart Mozart JUL 30, 05:47 PM
So is the radiator going in the front now? If so, have it at a front forward lean with a bottom mounted scoop for air intake and lots of louvers in the hood and sides or a combination of vents and louvers. http://www.motorbase.com/pr...4609662;p=2056815548 Can you see an old Pontiac Chief head on the side like you drew earlier?

Stuff to throw your credit card at:
http://www.ewenique.co.uk/a...g/Flying_helmet.html
http://www.hanhartusa.com/hanhart_stopwatches.htm
http://www.europaspares.com...asp?idx=2539&seton=1
86_IRM_TURBO JUL 30, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by toddshotrods:

from the back...





Just borrow the rocket motor from this! It looks like a good fit in your chassis.
http://videos.streetfire.ne...b74-98540077563b.htm

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The Poopsmith JUL 30, 09:31 PM
I'm sure you would be the first person to have strapped a rocket engine to the back of a daily driven 1930s rat rod. I guess if your gonna make something unusual you might as well go all the way. But that would also be going all the way at over 300mph. I'll pray for your soul.

Daniel
86_IRM_TURBO JUL 30, 09:43 PM
A couple gallons of hydrogen peroxide and two scuba tanks of Nitrogen and you too can run as fast as this.
Whole system is only a couple hundred pounds.

Sammy Miller in his rocket car.

His first three-second run occured at Santa Pod Raceway in Bedfordshire, England in 1980 where he ran a 3.90. (As a point of comparison, the lowest NHRA Top Fuel e.t. that year was a 5.68.)
In 1981, he set the world ice speed and e.t. record with a 1.67 at 247-mph in the eighth-mile.
By 1980, he held 30 United States state and track records in elapsed time and mile per hour.
He holds the quickest elapsed time and mile per hour standards in the following countries:
(1/4 mile)
CANADA (4.26/331)
DENMARK (4.97/267)
ENGLAND (3.58/386)
SWEDEN (4.10/328)
MEXICO (4.95/274)

**BEST SPEED - 386.26 at Santa Pod (England), although Miller did run 396-mph at the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah over a quarter-mile from a standing start.

BEST E.T. - 3.583

(1/8 mile)
BELGIUM (3.13/211)
HOLLAND (1.606/307)
ENGLAND (2.00/312)
SWEDEN (2.27/297)
GERMANY (2.49/259)
CORSICA (2.56/238)

toddshotrods JUL 31, 12:51 AM

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Originally posted by The Poopsmith:
I kind of like the exposed engine. But after all my quick thoughts on that look, it's probably illegal and would compromise reliability...



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Originally posted by fieroguru:
I love the idea of the exposed engine! The only downside would be keeping the frame rails and struts simple and clean so they do not detract from the engine.

I would not expect the exposed engine to be illegal, many of the rat rods run with exposed engines....


I didn't say anything because I was hoping that you guys would see what I see - I LOVE the exposed engine!!!

One good thing about Ohio is you can register and drive a frame and motor, as long as it has the basic safety equip (lights, horn, etc.); so my exposed motor will be fine

I was dreading the thought of closing the motor in after I saw the rear three-quarter view of the model. If everyone here said it was ugly, I was going to consider covering it, but...

I am working on designs for the rear frame and suspension to make it look right in the open. One benefit is the body is so freakin simple now that I can put a little more fabrication work into the chassis, without blowing my time/money goals.

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toddshotrods JUL 31, 01:12 AM

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Originally posted by The Poopsmith:
...Are you gathering parts to start working on it or are you building anything yet?


Gathering parts and looking for the gremlins that would stop it from happening. I have decided to put two other projects on hold until this one is on the road, and if I really like it I may even sell the Camaro when it's done. Until then, the Camaro gives me something to have fun with and market my services...

If all goes according to my plans, I hope to begin building the frame in August - September at the latest. The biggest thing with that is developing the design to the point that I know I am only going to do it once. The changes in the body from the beginning of this thread would have resulted in three different frames being built, if I had just jumped in headfirst. That gets frustrating and is one of the big reasons projects never leave the garage; and why pre-engineered kits are so attractive.

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toddshotrods JUL 31, 01:30 AM

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Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:
...So is the radiator going in the front now? If so, have it at a front forward lean with a bottom mounted scoop for air intake and lots of louvers in the hood and sides or a combination of vents and louvers. http://www.motorbase.com/pr...4609662;p=2056815548 Can you see an old Pontiac Chief head on the side like you drew earlier?...


I haven't figured that out yet but I like your train of thought. I don't think there's enough space under the "bonnet" for a conventional radiator (even tilted), and I don't want to increase the size. Radiators that would fit will also blow the budget...



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Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:
...Stuff to throw your credit card at:
http://www.ewenique.co.uk/a...g/Flying_helmet.html
http://www.hanhartusa.com/hanhart_stopwatches.htm
http://www.europaspares.com...asp?idx=2539&seton=1



I MUST have one of those helmets (at some point in the future) to go with the car at cruises and shows! I don't think I could wear it driving around though!

I like the dashboard ralleye plate too. One of those would be cool on the back of the driver's seat - for the navigator. OK, so now I'll need two "suicide" helmets!

The third link didn't work???

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toddshotrods JUL 31, 01:38 AM
No rockets guys! I have a hard enough time keeping one foot in normality as it is!

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