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Fierofreak00
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MAR 14, 07:21 PM
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Ok, I read thru the whole thing and no pics? C'mon you guys you know we need pics!  ------------------
A coward dies a thousand deaths..................A soldier dies but once.
Red 86 SE
Yellow 87 GT
Gold 86 SE (wrecked)
Red 84 2.5 Coupe
In the process of buying another 87 GT
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Will
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MAR 14, 09:40 PM
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I'll post some pictures when I assemble the thing... I'm building a replacement short block, not overhauling the engine in my car now. I got a block from wcapman, crank from ebay, Eagle rods, coated some pistons that I already had around, ordered Clevite bearings, etc. ------------------
'87 Fiero GT: Low, Sleek, Fast, and Loud
'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: None of the AboveLuck, Fate and Destiny are words used by those who lack the courage to define their own future
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Will
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MAR 14, 09:46 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by jstricker:
My crankshaft came from Standard Crankshaft. With shipping it was $249.50 and that included new rod and main bearings (Clevite). There was something like a $180 core charge, but mine was an acceptable core.
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That sounds like a hell of a deal. I don't know how they can get you those bearings so cheap. Summit's prices were over $170 for rods and $53 for mains. Hope that $30 crank shaft holds up.  I guess if N* cranks hardly ever wear out they can basically give them away because they're almost guaranteed a good core. ------------------
'87 Fiero GT: Low, Sleek, Fast, and Loud
'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: None of the AboveLuck, Fate and Destiny are words used by those who lack the courage to define their own future
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GSXRBOBBY
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MAR 17, 11:30 PM
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Hey Will how much was the rebuild kit and or gasket kit for the Northstar? Are they really $$$$, the valve cover gasket was $40.00 by me. ------------------
Bobby from NW Indiana
86 Fiero GT, Looking to ad a 93 Northstar soon
thespeedshop@sbcglobal.net
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jstricker
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MAR 18, 12:36 AM
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One valve cover gasket was $40??? GM Partsdirect shows list price at $13.28 each, they sell them for $7.57. But GMPD has outrageous shipping on small parts so it will actually cost you more to order them from GMPD and have them shipped than to go to a dealer and buy them. Don't forget that you also need the 8 seals per engine that go under the spark plug tubes. John Stricker
| quote | | Originally posted by GSXRBOBBY: Hey Will how much was the rebuild kit and or gasket kit for the Northstar? Are they really $$$$, the valve cover gasket was $40.00 by me. |
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GSXRBOBBY
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MAR 18, 01:00 PM
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They were included, I didn't get it, I was able to save mine. I was just wondering the cost so I had an idea if I were to rebuild the motor I got down the road. ------------------
Bobby from NW Indiana
86 Fiero GT, Looking to ad a 93 Northstar soon
thespeedshop@sbcglobal.net
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Will
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MAR 18, 04:07 PM
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Expect to spend more than $300 on gaskets for this engine. I got head gaskets, valve cover gaskets, spark plug o-rings, front cover gasket, oil pump gasket, pan gasket, intake mani gaskets, exhaust mani gaskets, waterpump gaskets, valve cover bolt grommets, and a few miscellaneous gaskets like the throttle body o-rings for $250. And after that I still needed the "oil manifold" that bolts to the bottom of the lower crank case ($80). ------------------
'87 Fiero GT: Low, Sleek, Fast, and Loud
'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: None of the AboveLuck, Fate and Destiny are words used by those who lack the courage to define their own future
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Will
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MAR 18, 04:08 PM
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Finished time-serting wcapman's block last night. I'm going to send the toolkit back when I get a new bottle of loctite to go with it. The included bottle is feeling pretty light. ------------------
'87 Fiero GT: Low, Sleek, Fast, and Loud
'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: None of the AboveLuck, Fate and Destiny are words used by those who lack the courage to define their own future
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Will
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MAR 19, 12:08 AM
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Just got the assembly back from being balanced at the machine shop. It was so far out that he had to call and confirm that the engine was internally balanced. The stock rods are 681 grams, while the Eagle rods are 530 grams. 150 grams lighter per rod times 8 rods is 1200 grams (2.64 lbs) removed from the rotating and reciprocating assemblies. Lots of holes drilled in the counterweights.... Initially at 5,000 RPM the assembly had 580# of out of balance force at the front main and 600# at the rear main. After balancing it was about 1# at each end at 5,000 RPM. ------------------
'87 Fiero GT: Low, Sleek, Fast, and Loud
'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: None of the AboveLuck, Fate and Destiny are words used by those who lack the courage to define their own future
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jstricker
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MAR 19, 08:35 AM
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Sounds good. I have an extra bottle of the oil here, but I don't have an extra bottle of the loctite, I don't even remember which loctite it takes off the top of my head. I was curious how the balance was going to come out with the light rods. Now think about throwing some non-stock pistons like Arias in the balance mix and things get pretty interesting. John Stricker
| quote | | Originally posted by Will: Finished time-serting wcapman's block last night. I'm going to send the toolkit back when I get a new bottle of loctite to go with it. The included bottle is feeling pretty light. |
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