Alright. Gonna get these last 3 pics of the wiring harness out there for you guys. I will still need to add the two wires for the purge canister but everything needed to make it run is there and done.

Complete harness minus loom.


ECM/c203/caddy engine to dash connector.

I used the caddy fuel pump relay since I had several around. I wired it into the interior and it will mount under the center console. I didn't have a fiero relay handy and the mount for it in the car was cut out by the previous owner when they installed the firewall speakers. You can see it there next to the ALDL connector. I added a fuel pump prime wire to the ALDL also. Once this harness is in the car it should never have to come out again. I can drop the motor and it will stay put. No more touching the interior to remove the motor. The wires you see that are not connected to anything are the ECM constant power, ground, and fan relays 1 and 2. Those are wired into the car by way of the C500 and bypass the engine to dash connector. Fieros with AC have a 2 speed radiator fan. Mine didn't.

Engine to caddy engine to dash conector.

Wires were tucked away as best as possible while also making the harness easy to remove. All wires were cut to length and soldered/heat-shrinked (shrunk? ). As you can see there is very little in the way of connectors that need to be done. I routed then straight down the left side of the engine (as it sit in the fiero), and along the fuel rail (EGR silonoid, TPS, and IAT only). Once loomed it should be very clean looking.

The C500 was pretty simple and rockcrawls pinouts were dead on for me. Not much to worry about here.
The few small mods that need to be done are...
-Connect a tach wire to the coil. I used an extra caddy coil power connector for this. I shaved off the piece of plastic that keeps it from being used on the tach side. Soldered up the white wire from the C500 and was done.
-The alternator wire is WAY too long. Also I can say that an 85 2.5 harness has the wrong size loop to fit the caddy alternator. I don't know about other years but it was for me. I added a new loop and shortened the wire. Cut almost 2' off.
-The alternator charge wire (brown) needs to be connected to the caddy alternator connector. The fieros one doesn't fit. Its also WAY too long. Trim it down and change connectors.
-In A1 of the C500 you may find a black wire. Its not listed on rockcrawls pinouts. Its the wire for the decklid release FYI. Goes straight to the wire that runs through the decklid. Connector will vary depending on years but any connector will work as long as you have both sides. If you solder it together you will have a hard time removing the decklid. I used a simple connector I found in the shop since the one on the car had been cut off. No wonders we couldn't get the decklid to pop and had to drill out the lock.

Some of the other wires were shortened but most were just connected. Thats it. Its really just time consuming. There is nothing difficult about it.

The chip showed up today. It had a nice detour around the company before finding its way back to me. Should have had it on thursday. Oh well, everything else is done now and this weekend will be dedicated to the first start. I just remembered that I still need to modify the tach. Got the stuff, just got to do it. Later guys.

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quote Originally posted by Darren's 87 coupe: Dang Man, that's crazy about finding your daughter after all these years. That is really cool. My daughter is 5 weeks old now and hasn't stopped crying for anything other than food. She's really neat though. I should be truthful and say that it seems like the last few nights she has been sleeping a little more, so I think we might be getting to the end of the sleepless nights. My boy is 4 and he is really having fun having a sister around. We're all doing really well. As for the car, I have all day help Friday and Saturday on my house, so I might take a few hours on Saturday and have my friend help me run wires and try to get that done. It's close now, but what I have left would go a lot faster with another person, so we might try to knock it out for a few hours if we get enough done on the house. I have my side scoops getting made as we speak. I am hoping to pay for them late this week and get them sometime in the next week or so. I'll show pics when they get here. I am selling my wifes car now that we got here something newer and nicer. With what money I get from her car, which is about $300 (it's a POS) I will be getting the 2 rims I still need. So far I have 2 rims and 3 tires. Wierd story, but when you get a good deal, you have to take it. That's about all for now, but keep us updated. Darren

Yea. I'm still in shock about finding her. 8 years of searching finally came up with something. I knew what city she lived it for all that time but didn't have a number or anyone to contact about it. Happy as a clam now!

Glad to hear the new little one is doing well. Don't worry, you'll start getting some sleep soon.

Keep me posted on the scoops and progress of your car. I can't wait to see what you've come up with. Its gonna be very nice. What is the story on the wheels and tires? You got me curious now.

While I'm at it I have a slight update to do...

First off I just ordered a timing cover gasket set today. It whould be at the auto parts store near where the car is tomorrow. I picked it up just to be covered in case I need to replace the gaskets after I've removed the water pump to try to fix the leak. At least I'll have some experiance in taking off a water pump while the engine is in the car. Guess there is one bright side to it. I'll do a write up on it for those who are interested.

I have confirmed the plans to bring the car home. It will probably be on the 21st instead of the 12th. I have to work on the 12th so can't take that weekend off. I requested the 18th off and switched schedules with someone for the 21st. This will give me a 4 day weekend. I hope to have the car running this weekend so I can drive it back to my Dads house from the shop. Then I'll have the 4 day weekend to get everything road worthy at the house where I can work all night if needed. Should be able to get some test drives in that weekend also. Monday the 21st I will put the final touches on it and go down to the DMV for the trip permit. Then I go for the final test drive 125 miles home. Hope everything goes smoothly for this. Wish me luck.

One other thing while I'm at it. Here are a couple photoshops of the car with the new wheels on it. It confimed for me that those are THE wheels for this car. Its gonna look great! I'll have to do the fast back conversion later to here are the photoshops as both body styles. Thank you HC and Unboundmo for the excellant work.
Notchie.

Fastback. I borrowed a pic of Rickady88GT's car. Unboundmo did a color change on the car and the wheels for me. Rickady used the same wheels but in silver with different sized tires then I'm going to use.


For those who are interested the wheels fit the bill perfectly. They are ASA AR1's in black. 17x7+38mm front and 17x8+35mm rear. The 3mm difference covers the extra width of the vette rotors too. They weigh in at around 21lbs each (same as fiero 14's) and cost ~$135 each. Price, offset, color and staggared widths are just what I was looking for. Just wish they would have made them in 16's with the staggared widths. Still deciding on the tires but they will probably cost more then the wheels. Sizes will be 225/45-17 front and 245/45-17 rear. I chose these sizes cause there are tons of choices. 60 through tirerack.com alone. Ordering everything very soon. Rear wheels are backordered for a while but they will show up eventually.

What do you guys think?

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Cliffhanger anyone.

Got a bunch done last time I was down. Though that was 10 days ago. The car still is not running. The problem was the place that was suppose to have my gasket kit didn't come through for me. I left Sunday morning and the kit showed up Monday morning. So that part was a bust and stopped progress to a point.

First think we did was take off the waterpump and timing cover. This is a much simpler job then doing a fiero waterpump. I did have to lower the cradle to do it. I threw the jack under it and removed the rear bolts only. I only had to drop it about 3" to get at the crank pully. That has to come off to remove the timing cover. These are the gaskets we have to replace.

Timing cover gasket kit. Includes waterpump, timing cover, and water inlet.
Fel-pro part # TCS55222
You can get it from rockauto for about 20. I got it up the street for ~15.
If your just doing the waterpump there is no need to lower the cradle. Dad took everything next door and I haven't seen it since.

Me and my daughter got started on the rest of the car. After her help with the waterpump she got the job of installing the chip. She was very excited cause its such an important piece. Meanwhile I grab the battery we put on the trickle charger a couple weeks before. Its still wasn't very good so a new battery will be in order also. It had enough juice to test everything though.


She has power! I have never seen this car with any kind of power before this day. Over a year working on it and not once. Most of the lights work. Headlights dont go up but they go down so the gears seem to be good. I'll take a look at them later and make them work. Its probably something simple. Both lights turn on which is a good thing since then are not original either. Someone bought the 30 dollar e-bay special ones for it.
For some reason, which I haven't look into yet, the dash lights in the cluster don't work. Of course, its not bolted down, so that could have something to do with it. Every other light in the car works, idiot lights are good. I got a check engine light and bulb test for everything. Aux gauge pod has power and the temp gauge moved. I double checked for any loose wires and tested some circuits to make sure everything else that should have power, did. Everything looked good. Turned on the key, hear the fuel pump relay click on... but no pump. I double checked the wiring diagrams and realized I forgot a wire.. alright, studied them for a while. Oops. I think I have it figured out but still have to make the connection.

Soon after the battery died. Thats about it for this trip. I only had one day and it was pretty much done from the beginning. Had lots of fun with my daughter though! We made sure to take a couple pics of her in the sprint car too. One crazy, one smiling, of course.

I'm heading down tomorrow night for the final push to roadworthyness (Is that a word? ). I'm taking friday through monday off to get this thing on the road. Once running (hopefully friday) it will be moved (hehe, driven. ) back to the garage at Dads house. There I can work til I pass out if I need to. 2 days and, if needed, nights to get everything else ready. Then Monday morning the DMV opens and I can get the trip permit to take it home. I plan to take the rest of monday to work on.... Testdriving it of course. Thats the plan and I'm sticking to it! Later

There you go Darren!

Hehe. I just saw you post above this one. Somehow I missed it before starting this update. Nice, looks like we might even get these two running on the same weekend. Cant wait to hear it and see those scoops your coming up with.

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