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JUL 26, 04:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:
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toddshotrods
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JUL 26, 04:15 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:
I think your drawing makes it look like a pickup |
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| quote | Originally posted by Fie Ro:
makes me think of this project
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It won't when I get a chance to work on the sketch or model a little more. I was just trying to rough it in real fast to see if the idea had merit.
The deck will look more like a trunk, which brings up yet another choice. Should it be:
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* Leather covered with more copper rivets?
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30+mpg
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JUL 26, 06:14 PM
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Build a model using a "Pinewood Derby kit". That way, you can give it to some Cub Scout and see your car actually "run". 
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JUL 26, 07:29 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 30+mpg:
Build a model using a "Pinewood Derby kit". That way, you can give it to some Cub Scout and see your car actually "run". |
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Hey! I thought the same thing... great minds and all.
| quote | Originally posted by toddshotrods:
Do you think the vintage Fiero goal is being accomplished?
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You seem to be meeting what you list (correctly in my opinion) as the primary qualification for "Fieroness" - the 2MX factor. Your other points reinforce it, as well as your decision to use 'off-the-shelf' parts. Design choices and styling cues- some subtle and some not- and material selection and finishing will be the determiners of 'vintage'... and you seem to be on track there as well.
But even if you weren't, it's your car and your fun- have at it any way you want. We're just a sounding board.
Just a thought- maybe you can enlist F-I-E-R-O to design the Pegasus for you. He seems to be the resident forum graphic designer. I'd be curious to see what he might come up with...
I like the idea of the leather (on the decklid), but I'm not quite seeing the application... straps and buckles to hold the decklid closed? Kind of like an old "trunk"?  Might be visually suggestive of a Fiero luggage rack...
-fh
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JUL 27, 12:08 AM
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I think I liked it better when the whole body was blended together especially if you wanted a land speed racer look you would want to keep it mostly aerodynamic. I know you have to think about what you know can actually accomplish but I think the last rendition is a bit too much of a compromise on the style of the car. If the rest of the car is going to be easily produced but the body is going to be the part that everybody is going to see first then I would spend most of my designing time on the body. Here is what came to mind when incorporating the t-bucket with the design I preferred.
I would think either a one piece flip up rear (Gt40 like) or a three piece with a flip up decklid (like the Fiero) would make the rear end simple enough design and produce with out making such a radical change. Just my thoughts.
Daniel
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toddshotrods
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JUL 27, 01:57 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by The Poopsmith:
...I am liking the over all look of the car with every design change... |
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| quote | Originally posted by The Poopsmith:
...I think I liked it better when the whole body was blended together... I think the last rendition is a bit too much of a compromise on the style of the car... |
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Uh oh, I am losing you  I understand your point but my number one priority is a workable plan that gets this car on the road and me back to my other projects. This puppy is being built to be driven - A LOT!!! The split bucket/deck design really facilitates that goal.
| quote | Originally posted by The Poopsmith:
...especially if you wanted a land speed racer look ... |
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That is basically like a condiment on a burger. It adds something but is not crucial for a good experience. I actually started to lean more towards a road race-oriented theme with the tandem seating arrangement, and decision to use 195/50's up front. When I "sat in" the mock-up, it felt more like a vintage road racer. That is also more "Fiero".
| quote | Originally posted by toddshotrods:
...The thing I like most about it is the thought of driving it on a twisty road, or exit ramp. It would have to be like driving a vintage race car, because you're perfectly centered and the front wheels are right there in your face! You can actually see the the tires following "the line". Behind your head you can hear the motor gulping fresh air through the intake, and a little further back that nasty growl! ... |
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Wonder if Cliff would edit the title of this thread for me  [This message has been edited by toddshotrods (edited 07-27-2007).]
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Gokart Mozart
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JUL 27, 08:42 AM
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Just post on the top of every page THIS IS NOT A LAND SPEED RACER!!
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toddshotrods
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JUL 27, 10:24 AM
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LOL!
Had to post this again, just cuz I love it
| quote | Originally posted by toddshotrods:
...Behind your head you can hear the motor gulping fresh air through the intake, and a little further back that nasty growl! ... |
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| quote | Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:
...Behind your head you can hear your passenger screaming for dear life... |
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The Poopsmith
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JUL 27, 11:09 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:
Just post on the top of every page THIS IS NOT A LAND SPEED RACER!! |
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Well if it's not going to follow any traits, anymore than being mid engined than I wouldn't have any ideas for this project but as it stands I thought there was a theme behind this car and I desired to give my input to collectively shape it into what I thought it was originally meant to be.
| quote | | Uh oh, I am losing you I understand your point but my number one priority is a workable plan that gets this car on the road and me back to my other projects. This puppy is being built to be driven - A LOT!!! The split bucket/deck design really facilitates that goal. |
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I didn't mean to sound as if I didn't like it I just had to throw in my opinion based on what I mentioned above about the influence of the design. If this latest design is what it will look like I am still excited to see it being done. I do want to see something built weather it is what I thought it was going to look like or not. And I know it will look completely different in real life then it is expressed on paper. That's all, no arguments on my end not that I could anyways because it not my car.
Daniel
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toddshotrods
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JUL 28, 12:15 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by The Poopsmith:
Well if it's not going to follow any traits, anymore than being mid engined than I wouldn't have any ideas for this project but as it stands I thought there was a theme behind this car and I desired to give my input to collectively shape it into what I thought it was originally meant to be. |
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Straying from the original steampunk/rat rod 27 Fiero Land Speed Racer theme is just a necessity. I absolutely LOVE themes, but sometimes just getting the job done is more important than adhering to a specific set of guidelines. I really want to be behind the wheel of this car next summer. I know that it would mean more to me to have as much seat time as possible behind the wheel of a cool hot rod, than to have a perfectly executed theme.
I am just having fun when I make jokes and sarcastic remarks in this thread, and I hope others are as well. My intention is never to belittle or offend anyone.
| quote | Originally posted by The Poopsmith:
...I didn't mean to sound as if I didn't like it I just had to throw in my opinion based on what I mentioned above about the influence of the design. If this latest design is what it will look like I am still excited to see it being done. I do want to see something built weather it is what I thought it was going to look like or not. And I know it will look completely different in real life then it is expressed on paper... |
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Glad to hear you still want to see it happen, and I hope that something in the plan continues to spark your interest and result in you posting comments and suggestions - even expressing the things you do not like.
| quote | Originally posted by The Poopsmith:
...That's all, no arguments on my end not that I could anyways because it not my car... |
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While it's true that this is my car in the end, if I accomplish my second goal, I will have created a car that is a tribute to the open-minded atmosphere of this community; and one that the community can be proud of. Vintage Fiero is the cornerstone of the theme. 1932, steampunk, rat rod, land speed racer, road racer, etc., are decorative finishes that give the vintage Fiero a little more aesthetic appeal.
In case you're wondering what the first goal is - drive it, drive it, drive it!
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