Check Engine Light when Applying the Brakes (Page 1/1)
Rightasrain MAR 24, 10:15 AM
Hi All,

I have a 3800 series II swapped 87 GT with a stange issue and any idea will be much appreciated.

As the post title suggests I get a check engine light when I apply the brakes.. The CEL is like a 4'th brake light since it goes away quickly when releasing the brakes.

Has anyone encountered this?

Thanks,
Ronen
olejoedad MAR 24, 03:05 PM
The first thing that comes to my mind is a wiring issue at C203 connector.

The CEL light and a lead from one of the brake switches both go to that connector.

The C203 is located under the center console, below where the OEM fire ECU lives.

C203-C is wired to the CEL light
C203-P is wired to the brake switch

I don't know if this is your problem, but it might be a place to start.
Rightasrain MAR 25, 12:34 AM
Thanks a bunch, super helpful!
I will check this out and update shortly.
Rightasrain APR 13, 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

The first thing that comes to my mind is a wiring issue at C203 connector.

The CEL light and a lead from one of the brake switches both go to that connector.

The C203 is located under the center console, below where the OEM fire ECU lives.

C203-C is wired to the CEL light
C203-P is wired to the brake switch

I don't know if this is your problem, but it might be a place to start.




Dug deeper and all wires/connections at C203 look solid.. I did some checking around the brake pedal switch and it is not the brake switch triggering the SES light but the TCC switch next to it.

Additionally, I'm getting a P0341 code which I thought was a different issue all together but I have no idea anymore.

Any advice would be welcomed really.

Thanks,
Ronen
jelly2m8 APR 13, 03:50 AM
it's a wiring issue, follow oldjoedad's advice.

P0341 is camshaft position sensor code, irrelevant to your brake light, but possibly you have an unrelated issue.

[This message has been edited by jelly2m8 (edited 04-13-2024).]

olejoedad APR 13, 07:16 AM
The TCC switch on the brake pedal should be wired to C203-P.

If its wired to C203-C that is your problem.

C203-C should be wired to PCM C2-5 (clear). It is a brown/white wire.

[This message has been edited by olejoedad (edited 04-13-2024).]

theogre APR 23, 10:45 AM
Does it happen when your parked w/ transmission in neutral/park?
Or only when Driving?

If only when Driving...
Is likely Wiring problems that angry from iffy motor/trans mounts letting the engine pulling or pinching the wires.
Or bad exhaust melting the wires now then soon can cause a fire.

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Rightasrain APR 23, 10:54 AM
Thanks for responding!

It happens in all trans gears and when the car is both on or off..

[This message has been edited by Rightasrain (edited 04-23-2024).]

olejoedad APR 23, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Rightasrain:

Thanks for responding!

It happens in all trans gears and when the car is both on or off..




Did you check the wiring at C203?