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Raydar
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JUL 11, 05:01 PM
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I bought another Fiero a few weeks ago that has a FWD Getrag adapted to the 2.8. (I knew this, going in.)
It was originally a Quad 4 application, which has had the bellhousing swapped, and has Rodney's FWD conversion pieces.
My issue? The "select" action is very tight. Even worse than the select action on my 4.9 car, which also has a FWD Getrag - actually a NVG T550.
I've driven several other Fieros with "Fiero" Getrags. None of them have been nearly this tight.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
Does anyone know if the FWD 282 has stiffer "centering" springs than the Fiero application?
No, I haven't touched the select cable, yet, on the new car. But the one on my 4.9 car has been replaced at least twice, with no change.
Thanks!
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fieroguru
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JUL 11, 06:00 PM
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Steve, when I ran one, I didn't notice the select cable being any stiffer than other getrags.
There was a TSB where GM changed the routing path for the select cable to reduce binding, so that might be something to look at. Also, the typical heat or water damage inside the cable itself.
https://web.archive.org/web...ero/TSB/TSB88714.htm
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Raydar
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JUL 11, 08:40 PM
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Thank you Paul.
I haven't done much with this one, other than adjust the shift cable, which made a big difference.
I haven't even looked at the select cable, yet. At a quick glance, nothing looked out of place, however.
Guess I'm just looking for a "magic bullet" that only affects FWD trannies. Not that there should actually be one. 
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sanderson231
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JUL 12, 01:17 PM
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On my Quad 4 I fabbed a mechanism to use 4 speed cables with the Quad 4 transaxle. The car was an 84 and I didn't want to spend all the money to convert to 5 speed cables and Rodney's adapter.
Disconnect the select cable and try moving the select teeter-totter by hand. I shouldn't take much force to move it.
In the Fiero, the select cable points up potentially allowing water infiltration followed by corrosion causing the cable to not slide well.[This message has been edited by sanderson231 (edited 07-12-2022).]
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Raydar
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JUL 12, 11:01 PM
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Wellll...
I just replaced my select cable with a slightly used "Rodney" select cable that I had laying around. (It was replaced before, in the hope of fixing the stiff select function on my 4.9 car. Was not the problem.)
The cable movement was significantly easier than the one that was on the car (which I believe was the original.)
Too bad that it wasn't any easier to move the shifter side-to-side after it was installed. 
I lubed all the pivot points on the shifter and on the tranny itself. I also routed it as guru posted, above. No bueno.
I should add that it also acts like the cable is a bit too short. I cannot shift into first gear. I can get into second, if I lean on it. (This was an intermittent issue before, but it is lots worse, now.)
I'm thinking that I'm not getting all the way into the 1-2 gate.
(Note... conventional wisdom says to bleed the clutch. I am quite certain that that is not the issue, here. My clutch doesn't grab until the pedal is several inches off the floor. It's not dragging.)
I'm going to check for worn pieces on the select linkage at the trans, and may "massage" the select cable brackets to achieve a bit more movement at the select lever.
I am open to suggestions, however.
Thanks![This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 07-13-2022).]
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Raydar
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JUL 13, 09:33 AM
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Update... First and Second gear are back. I just wasn't getting enough movement of the select lever to make it all the way into the 1-2 gate.
I adjusted the end on Rodney's "do not adjust" cable, for a bit more travel.
(With that said, I'm certain that Rodney's cable is fine. The old select cable acted essentially the same way. Something else is out of whack, but since it's a "Franken-trans", I'll take it as it is, for now.)
The select action itself is still a b!tch, though. I might try swapping shifter mechanisms around with one of my other cars. The cable is silky smooth. It's obviously not the problem.[This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 07-13-2022).]
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sanderson231
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JUL 13, 12:55 PM
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Disconnect both cables in the engine compartment and try to shift the transmission into all gears by hand. It should shift easily.
Is it possible the car has a modified 4-speed shifter? The 5 speed shifter has lots of travel both X and Y.[This message has been edited by sanderson231 (edited 07-13-2022).]
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fierosound
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JUL 13, 01:34 PM
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Raydar
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JUL 13, 02:20 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sanderson231:
Disconnect both cables in the engine compartment and try to shift the transmission into all gears by hand. It should shift easily.
Is it possible the car has a modified 4-speed shifter? The 5 speed shifter has lots of travel both X and Y.
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It shifts fine when you operate the levers by hand, at the tranny.
The car is an 88 GT, but seeing as that it has a Franken-trans, I suppose anything is possible. On the face of it, it looks just like my other 5 speed shifters. Nothing that looks like a reverse lockout.
Fierosound mentioned that my shifter may be cracked. That's a possibility. I'll have to go back in and look.[This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 07-13-2022).]
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sanderson231
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JUL 13, 06:03 PM
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Also worth checking to see if shifter moves easily with both cables disconnected in the engine compartment ------------------
formerly known as sanderson
1984 Quad 4
1886 SE 2.8L
1988 4.9L Cadillac
1988 3800 Supercharged
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