V6 coolant pipe routing and attachment (Page 2/3)
fierofool APR 22, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by Notorio:


Quick question to the gang: should an 88 v6 have that heat shield?



Look at the firewall. If it has the mountng points, yes, it should have the shield. That shield also protects lines, cables, and wiring harnesses.

Shisida APR 26, 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by IMSA GT:

Don't know if this helps:





It's clear now where the two outboard mounts go (see photos) but it's still a mystery to me how to attach the center mount and what to. If you check my photos, and compare with the diagram sent by IMSA GT (thanks for that, BTW--it got me started toward success). It seems to almost--but not quite--line up with a hole in the starter heat shield, and perhaps a threaded hole in the engine block under that (can't see now with the shield held in place under the remounted exhaust manifolds. BUT they don't line up on the same plane: the angle of the screw hole in the pipe bracket is pointing at the shield (and block) and an angle--not perpendicular to the plane that they are on. IMSAA GT, your diagram seems to show it the middle mounting hole attaching to a bracket that hold the wiring harness in place. If that's true, I haven't yet properly figured out how THAT mounts, but the diagram, views C and D, seem to show the middle mounting hole on the coolant pipe oriented in parallel to the pipe, and attaching to the "side" or that wiring harness mount. By that I mean, in the diagram, it appears that hole lines up with a stud whose axis is parallel to the engine block, not perpendicular to it. As you'll see in my photo, my hole points right at the block (though not perfectly perpendicular, as mentioned above), NOT parallel to the block. Thanks, guys for all your patient guidance. And I thought I had taken enough pictures......
Shisida APR 26, 06:30 PM
Shisida APR 26, 06:31 PM


Sorry for the duplicates of the previous photo. I'm not sure how that happened.
Shisida APR 26, 06:33 PM
Patrick APR 26, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by Shisida:

Sorry for the duplicates of the previous photo. I'm not sure how that happened.



It would've taken you less time to click EDIT on that post to delete the duplicate image link than to instead apologize about it.
Shisida APR 26, 11:42 PM
Thanks Patrick. I haven't posted much, as you can see, so I'm still learning how all this works. I had not noticed that such a feature was available.
IMSA GT APR 27, 01:51 AM
I'm more frustrated that this place has become so vacant over the last few years that you are now 12 days into attaching a pipe with no answers. Back in the day, 20 people would have answered you the first day you posted. Here's the best I can do.

That diagram I posted is wrong. That middle bracket is only to hold the wire loom. It does not attach to the pipe. I verified on my car so disregard my diagram.

I took this with a selfie stick since I can't get under my car right now. Line my starter up with your photo and it appears my bracket is cut off. The wire loom below the pipe has a clamp that I assume is clipped into one of the holes that are in your photo above the starter.



Here is a picture from the web. I zoomed into the 2nd image if that helps. It seems he has something there but I can't tell what it is.

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Shisida APR 27, 10:49 PM
IMSA GT, you have been sooo helpful. I really appreciate it. What's going on with that third, middle hole is still a mystery to me, and with yours quite clearly cut off, you can't be expected to know. That photo you gathered from the web is, unfortunately, inconclusive also. I'm thinking, screw it! Unless something obvious rears its head as I do the cradle re-install, I won't worry about it. The pipe's secure. It's possible that's a mount point for some other thing, I just have no idea what. I may come back to ask questions about wiring loom routing and bracket-hanging points if my disassembly photos are deficient for them too. I must confess I am not used to working this extensively on cars with this much "systems" complexity (wiring, sensors, endless vacuum plumbing), and so may have overestimated how intuitive it would all be upon rebuild. To put that in context, my other recent Pontiacs: 78 Trans Am and a 69 GTO...so elegantly simple and straightforward (especially the later).

To the point you raised about how the site was more active "back in the day," let me first humbly thank those of you who are attentive to the site and for responding to me. But I can't help but wonder why traffic's down? Do you have any guess? Are all the surviving Fieros now in salvage yards (God forbid!)? Are they all running perfectly? Are all the technical questions answered already on the site (mine weren't--I looked before posting)? I sure hope it's not that interest in these awesome cars has waned. Driving mine is a joy.
Patrick APR 27, 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by Shisida:

To the point you raised about how the site was more active "back in the day," let me first humbly thank those of you who are attentive to the site and for responding to me. But I can't help but wonder why traffic's down? Do you have any guess?



I think a lot of it has to do with how people today are accessing the internet. I suspect many have discarded/retired their PCs and are now attempting to do all online tasks through the use of their "smart" phones. It must make for a painful experience to try and navigate an online forum using a phone. I sure as heck couldn't do it. I'd go blind trying to see everything on such a puny screen, and typing any kind of coherent response without a proper keyboard would be next to impossible.

About your coolant crossover pipe... I swapped mine with a stainless steel replacement eight years ago on my Formula. I do recall I had some indecision regarding how it mounted, but eventually, after staring at it long enough, it became clear to me what needed to be done. I'm sorry though that after all these years, I can't remember anything of any further relevance.

Perhaps you could contact Rodney Dickman and ask for his advice on the matter. He's very familiar with Fiero coolant crossover pipes.

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