New Upper Ball Joint - extra part needed? (Page 2/3)
Patrick JUL 12, 03:20 AM
It's difficult with everything in place to tell for sure, but the shoulder on the one end of each rubber bushing goes towards the sway bar and LCA. It's been awhile since I've installed regular sway bar end links... but yes, that looks fine.

If you ever wish to tighten up the front end a bit more (especially if a rear sway bar is installed), try these Zero Lash End Links.

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Brent7088 JUL 12, 04:25 AM
Thank you Patrick, I will consider those if the need ever arises.

Do you think it would be ok to tighten down that stabilizer link before installing the new one on the passenger side - or should they be both tightened down at the same time since they attach to the same sway bar?
Patrick JUL 14, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by Brent7088:

Do you think it would be ok to tighten down that stabilizer link before installing the new one on the passenger side...



Just leave it loose, as this will more easily allow assembly of the other side.
Brent7088 JUL 14, 05:17 PM
Yea that's what I was thinking -- will do until I receive the 2nd one... thank you.
Brent7088 OCT 17, 07:45 PM
I know it’s been awhile since I last posted on this issue (was majorly sidetracked) , but I’m still having the problem of the boot pinching when installing the joint.

Please check out the pics below -- you can see how much the boot is being pinched/squashed on one side. The metal collar which holds the boot against the joint is in place, though not sure if it’s in the correct place:



I’ve searched for scenarios like this online and ran across this forum with someone talking about a similar case with a Chevelle (scrolling down about 6 times displays the paragraph). The guy talks about the way the front end of the car is jacked up may have an effect. Here is where I have my jackstands placed on my car:





Does anyone here have any thoughts or additional advice on what I’m doing wrong here?
PhatMax OCT 17, 09:50 PM
Once you get some weight on it the ball joint angle will flatten out. Looks fine to me.

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Patrick OCT 17, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by Brent7088:

I know it’s been awhile since I last posted on this issue (was majorly sidetracked) , but I’m still having the problem of the boot pinching when installing the joint.



You've still got the control arms hanging down. If it was me doing this, I'd have a hydraulic jack lifting the lower control arm of the side I'm working on... just enough to level it out while installing the ball joint.


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Originally posted by Patrick:

It's been a long time since I've replaced ball joints, but is there a reason why you have the control arms hanging down so low? I think if you raised the lower control arm, things would look and/or go together much better.


Brent7088 OCT 17, 10:14 PM
Ok - that does make sense. I don't have anything else disconnected at this point, so I just couldn't understand why it still wasn't leveling out.

As Phatmax suggested I could just piece it all together, slap the tire on and see if it all evens out once it's back on the floor. If it doesn't I will jack the control arm up and redo it as you suggested.

Thank you both
Patrick OCT 17, 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by Brent7088:

I don't have anything else disconnected at this point, so I just couldn't understand why it still wasn't leveling out.



What do you think the springs are doing? They're pushing the lower control arms down! And since the weight of the car is not on the suspension, there's nothing resisting the downward pressure of the springs.

Think about it... how would the suspension magically "level out" the way you're doing this?


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Brent7088 OCT 18, 04:09 PM
Patrick - yea I understand what you're saying.. I wasn't seeing the bigger picture of how it would fall in place after the job was finished. I just kept thinking I was missing something or doing it wrong.. I'll do it your way and finish it up... thank you for setting me straight.