87gt cranking not turning over? (Page 1/6)
Dwayne DEC 30, 04:46 PM
my son's 87gt won't start so he called me. it cranks fine just doesn't even try to turn over. ran great till then. I started looking into it and so far I got about 45psi at fuel rail. and pulled a plug laid it on intake and got spark. next I placed cyl #1 at tdc and checked for roter at plug wire 1 position. any Ideas on where to go from here.

thanks, Dwayne
Mike in Sydney DEC 30, 05:07 PM
Probably the ignition module. Kinda a common fault with age. Try this to confirm. http://easyautodiagnostics....tor_ign_module_1.php

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Spadesluck DEC 30, 06:51 PM
Start simple. Ignition module is the simple fix for sure.You checked fuel. Try checking if you got spark as well.
Gall757 DEC 30, 08:26 PM
The extra easy test is to crank the starter and look at the tachometer. IF the needle moves, the ICM is working. If it does not....replace the ICM.

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olejoedad DEC 30, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by Dwayne:

my son's 87gt won't start so he called me. it cranks fine just doesn't even try to turn over. ran great till then. I started looking into it and so far I got about 45psi at fuel rail. and pulled a plug laid it on intake and got spark. next I placed cyl #1 at tdc and checked for roter at plug wire 1 position. any Ideas on where to go from here.

thanks, Dwayne



He has spark.

Patrick DEC 30, 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by Dwayne:

...pulled a plug laid it on intake and got spark.



Jumping a few thousands of an inch at atmospheric pressure means next to nothing. A healthy spark will easily jump a quarter inch gap outside of the combustion chamber.
Dwayne DEC 30, 11:32 PM
will try to check the icm and place a spark tester on plug wire to check strength of spark. the tachometer is moving as well when cranking. thanks
creaky78 DEC 31, 11:42 AM
Patrick is correct. A weak ignition system can produce spark when plug is inserted into the wire and grounded. When the plug is in the engine compression will not allow the weak system to produce a spark due to the high pressure between the plug electrodes. Also check the coil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmdS4vGB-m8
ltlfrari DEC 31, 03:49 PM
You need spark (in the cylinder) and fuel to run.
Use one of those transparent inline spark testers to see if you have spark. Put between coil and dist center.
Throw some starting fluid down it's throat.

If it at least fires and you've got spark then it's fuel, no spark can be ignition module or coil. ICM is most likely. I've them just 'go' twice so far. Always carry a spare (and tools to swap it out) now.
However if it's electrical, it could be a bad wire or connection somewhere that's just given up the ghost!


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David Hambleton DEC 31, 09:29 PM
On two occasions separated by a few years, my '84 SE quit while driving and wouldn't restart.
Both times showed strong spark with an inline tester. Both times displayed plenty of fuel in the TBI throat.
Both times I replaced the ECM and it started immediately. Your results may vary...

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