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cvxjet
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DEC 01, 11:00 PM
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Rebuilt the right motor a year ago, then finally got around to rebuilding the left motor. The second time I tested them, the left one started running on and overheating- got up to 160 degrees before I could disconnect it. I checked the right motor- it was cool...not running on. The next day I was showing a friend this situation- did NOT touch the headlight switch, but possibly touched the manual knob on the the right motor. As we were leaving the garage, I heard a sound- checked the right motor- 120 degrees and rising! Let me make this perfectly clear- I did not raise or lower the headlights that day- It just started on it's own! I had also had two incidents of dead battery with no known reason- I now believe that one or both motors were starting and running in the middle of the night. I decided to install a relay in the RED main power wire which runs directly from the battery to the motors- So that the power is only on when the key is on. Once you shut the car off and pull the key, the headlight motors have no power, so cannot create any problems. I installed mine in the front compartment, actually mounting it on the lower stud that holds the prop rod- just needed another nut. I cut the red wire and ran it through the relay, then ran the ground wire to the grouped ground bundle in the harness between the prop rod and the master cylinder. The actual "Keyed power" wire was a bit more involved; When I ordered my Fiero in 85 I had sprung for the lighting option which installs lights in the front and back compartments- the front one only came on if your headlights were on- and if they were on they lit up your front compartment better than that little bulb- So I hadn't even had a bulb in the socket for 30 years....I cut the brown wire and spliced it to the relay's power wire- then, under the dash, I spliced that brown wire to the window power wire (I don't have power windows) It might be better to install the relay back by the main junction by the battery- easier to get Keyed power to actuate the relay.... I believe that every Fiero with the early headlight motor system should have this installed- I actually ended up swapping my headlight motors to the 87-88 system- but still installed this relay just to have absolute safety. The Relay I used is a Pico 5591PT Relay and connector kit- in the connector I removed the center wire which is not used...The relay is available thru Summit for $7.JPG) [This message has been edited by cvxjet (edited 12-01-2019).]
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cvxjet
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DEC 01, 11:06 PM
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I apologize for the extra images- haven't a clue why they are there- I even tried to eliminate them but when I went back all three were there........
OK- hit the computer with a sledge hammer and now have fixed it.......(Basically....)[This message has been edited by cvxjet (edited 12-01-2019).]
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hunter29
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JUL 19, 07:36 PM
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Your showing one wire, in my 86 service Manuel it shows two, fuseable link C and D are they different for each year ?
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cvxjet
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JUL 19, 09:01 PM
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If you just look at the Headlight door diagram it looks like there are two separate wires, one going to each motor......But if you look at the power distribution Diagram it shows that there is one wire coming off the battery junction block going forward.....This wire passes thru the C100 bulkhead connector on the forward firewall....Then the one wire splits into two which each have their own fusible link, and on to the motors.
I looked at the HL door diagram and thought there was two wires, but then actually looked at the C100 connector diagram and saw only one.....So then I pulled the plastic convo tubing off and looked at the actual wires and saw the real situation.....Then, frustrated at the (Lousy) diagrams, I happened to look at the power distribution diagram and suddenly saw the real situation. Maybe I can get a diagram online and highlight the situation.....
 [This message has been edited by cvxjet (edited 07-19-2020).]
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hunter29
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JUL 20, 10:08 AM
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Ok , I get it, thanks so much..
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hunter29
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JUL 20, 07:35 PM
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Rebuilt one motor today, all went well. So do you know anyway to get a wire from the front into the cab ?
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hunter29
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JUL 23, 10:26 AM
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Just a bump, I dont think this can be done in the back as that line splits off to a HL function..
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cvxjet
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JUL 23, 12:00 PM
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I see what you are saying....Rats! When I get a chance I will smoke some more brain cells and see if I can come up with a better setup......
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hunter29
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JUL 23, 07:57 PM
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This could be easy, just need to figure out how to get a wire from that relay into the car, but it don't look easy to get through the front firewall, without drilling a hole and I dont want to do that. Any ideas? I have not had a chance to take a good look yet.
PS. I want the power off at all times unless the lights need to go up or down.[This message has been edited by hunter29 (edited 07-23-2020).]
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Rickady88GT
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JUL 23, 09:08 PM
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I used a relay for my pop-ups for the LS4 swap. The Monte Carlo has auto head lights, but for exposed lights. I had to add a relay to the Monte system to pop the lights up, the Monte system only turns on the light bulbs. I don't remember exactly how I wired the motors, but it was not that difficult. Now I never even use the head light switch. The drawback is that starting the car in the garage the lights always pop up. The cool thing is that the lights stay on for about 20 seconds after I get out of the car a night. This helps me see where I am going and what I may step into at night. I also did a Corvette Tune Port swap (never finished it I sold the engine) that had a head light timer in the blue dingy thing under the dash. This timer could be hooked up to do the same thing to any Fiero.,,,I am guessing?
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