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TheFieroKid
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JUN 12, 02:39 PM
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Ok, so here’s the tea.
I was doing some reading on our local neighborhood saturns, and it turns out they have a quite simple and very tough 1.9 DOHC engine that is all aluminum (so it is REDICULOUSLY light) and revs to high heaven. Turns out it also has a great transmission.
These engines are SUPPOSED to be very simple, so I don’t think an engine swap is out of the question
How feasible does this swap sound?
I’m looking for input on also how I’d go about fitting this, and things similar to this. Would I have to run a mega squirt or could I morph the ECU from a fiero to work?
If any machining is required, what is it and how hard would it be to do?
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fieroguru
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JUN 12, 09:00 PM
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I think the 1.9 engine has been swapped at least once... but I don't remember where.
Feasibility pretty much comes down to your skills, tools/equipment, motivation, dedication, and available funds.
Unless a swap has been completed multiple times and the early swappers took the time to document and detail how it was done, you will be forced to reinvent the wheel for your swap. This will take at a minimum fabricating engine/transmission mounts as well as reworking the shifter linkage/brackets to work in a Fiero, as well as interfacing the Saturn engine harness to the Fiero chassis.
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OntarioKev
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JUN 12, 09:10 PM
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I had a couple Saturns in my youth and loved them.
Something to know about the Saturn 1.9l is they burn oil. The oil control rings go bad and they burn a lot of oil. Just remember to top it off.
I am not sure of the weight savings on the 1.9 vs Fiero engines, but keep in mind the better Saturn engine (DOHC) only made 124hp. With some bolt ons you could get them to 150, which was decent for a 2400lb Saturn, but I am not sure how that would feel in the Fiero.
Transmissions were great, just stay out of wheel hop. In the Saturns you could get some bad wheel hop (poly transmission mounts fixed it), and you would crack the housing.
Other then wheel hop and having to top up the engine oil those were very solid powertrains.
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Dennis LaGrua
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JUN 12, 09:41 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by fieroguru:
I think the 1.9 engine has been swapped at least once... but I don't remember where.
Feasibility pretty much comes down to your skills, tools/equipment, motivation, dedication, and available funds.
Unless a swap has been completed multiple times and the early swappers took the time to document and detail how it was done, you will be forced to reinvent the wheel for your swap. This will take at a minimum fabricating engine/transmission mounts as well as reworking the shifter linkage/brackets to work in a Fiero, as well as interfacing the Saturn engine harness to the Fiero chassis.
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In your last thread, you wanted to swap in an Alfa Romeo 3.0 24v 60 degree busso v6, then you wanted to consider a Cadillac Caterra DOHC V6, then you added the Quad four to your list and now a Saturn 1.9L engine is there too. None of these engines are even remotely similar in performance. I hope that I am wrong about this but this thread has the makings of being that of a troll. ------------------
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Patrick
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JUN 12, 10:20 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:
In your last thread, you wanted to swap in an Alfa Romeo 3.0 24v 60 degree busso v6, then you wanted to consider a Cadillac Caterra DOHC V6, then you added the Quad four to your list and now a Saturn 1.9L engine is there too. None of these engines are even remotely similar in performance. I hope that I am wrong about this but this thread has the makings of being that of a troll.
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Maybe all these engine options being brought up by the Kid fit more into the following category. 
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fieroguru
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JUN 12, 10:37 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:
In your last thread, you wanted to swap in an Alfa Romeo 3.0 24v 60 degree busso v6, then you wanted to consider a Cadillac Caterra DOHC V6, then you added the Quad four to your list and now a Saturn 1.9L engine is there too. None of these engines are even remotely similar in performance. I hope that I am wrong about this but this thread has the makings of being that of a troll.
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Dennis, your point would be clearer if you quote the OP's request for info vs. my response to his questions.
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pmbrunelle
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JUN 12, 10:56 PM
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They're not bad for an econobox drivetrain, but I wouldn't go out of my way to put one in a Fiero... it's less displacement than either Fiero engine, and less power than the V6.
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Blacktree
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JUN 13, 10:03 AM
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I used to have a Saturn with the 1.9 liter engine. IMO, it was anemic. It was as slow as a Duke powered Fiero. I definitely wouldn't go through the trouble of an engine swap, just to have that engine.
If you want a Fiero with a peppy 4-cylinder engine, the EcoTec is a better choice. Plus you can get an EcoTec swap kit from Roger Thelin.
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Vicophine
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JUN 13, 10:05 AM
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Just put a Viper engine in it.
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TheFieroKid
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JUN 13, 10:32 AM
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“In your last thread, you wanted to swap in an Alfa Romeo 3.0 24v 60 degree busso v6, then you wanted to consider a Cadillac Caterra DOHC V6, then you added the Quad four to your list and now a Saturn 1.9L engine is there too. None of these engines are even remotely similar in performance. I hope that I am wrong about this but this thread has the makings of being that of a troll.”
Ok. I see what you are getting at. But I’m trying to explore as many options as possible, and I’ve seen threads for all sorts of different builds, and I’m curious if someone might be able to point me in the right direction. I still am deciding what I want to do, as an Alfa swap is something I still want to pursue at some point.
The 1.9 I like because it’s super simple, it’s a great turbo platform, and by goodness it’s light. It weighs like nothing compared to the 2.8 or even the 2.5.
If your gonna quote me actually read more of my threads next time because only then would you understand why I want these different swaps. They all have different pluses and minuses. For example I have not brought up an engine that wasn’t all aluminum because I care about as much weight savings as possible
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