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Heat/AC box cleaning, again... (Page 1/5) |
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theogre
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OCT 25, 08:25 PM
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Dennis LaGrua
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OCT 25, 09:57 PM
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Found mice nest in one of my stored Fieros today. Just have removed five handfuls of what looked like chopped jute padding and paper. Bad stuff to start a fire. Wonder if dryer sheets will keep them out in future. ------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, Champion Radiator, S10 Brake Booster, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
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Spadesluck
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OCT 25, 11:05 PM
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Why not put a screen on the hole were the fresh air comes in under the plastic cowling? I am doing this before I put mine back together. Should help with junk getting in there. [This message has been edited by Spadesluck (edited 10-25-2018).]
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theogre
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OCT 26, 09:49 AM
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quote | Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua: Found mice nest in one of my stored Fieros today. Just have removed five handfuls of what looked like chopped jute padding and paper. Bad stuff to start a fire. Wonder if dryer sheets will keep them out in future. |
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Mice nest = mice crap and pee. Clean the area w/ Lysol and other foam cleaners to remove that and kill germs.
quote | Originally posted by Spadesluck: Why not put a screen on the hole were the fresh air comes in under the plastic cowling? I am doing this before I put mine back together. Should help with junk getting in there. |
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On top under wipers? Run wiper motor w/ windshield trim/screen off and you see have to clear wiper trans when running. Wiper trans take more room than most think because never see it running.
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OCT 26, 09:55 AM
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quote | Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:
Found mice nest in one of my stored Fieros today. Just have removed five handfuls of what looked like chopped jute padding and paper. Bad stuff to start a fire. Wonder if dryer sheets will keep them out in future.
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In my experience dryer sheets help, and at least they don't smell bad.
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olejoedad
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OCT 26, 11:13 AM
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The dryer sheets work well for me.
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theogre
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OCT 26, 11:22 AM
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Here's heat only box inside, pic thru blower opening on my parts car... There is a door, hot/cold door I think, that closes heater core there. (Control head inside of car is missing.)


Seem like heat only box is more open to let a lot of crap thru unlike AC/heat box above that pushes crap towards the resistor. I would clean it if you pull the blower for any reason but doesn't look as bad as a fire hazard for most things. Resistors look better because how it's made but small junk may get stuck, pic shown some burn crap (and some cob webs) on the resistors, and so cleaning out all crap can help. If mice etc moves it you must clean and use Lysol etc too. Not sure how you can clean the door... Old Foam likes to fall off making a bigger mess to deal with.
You can pull the blower on both boxes in minutes so checking/cleaning is fairly easy. 5 7mm hex head screws and 2 power connectors. Both have same blower and fan but is a bit tighter to remove in AC car w/ spare tire in. You do not have to remove sun roof shelf to remove the blower or the resistor set. AC cars can be easier when you have a long 7mm nut driver or socket extension. Magnetic tools help too.
If you can, remove the blower nut to check under the fan. Sometimes things get stuck between motor and fan and rub the fan and can be intermittent noise problems.[This message has been edited by theogre (edited 10-26-2018).]
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David Hambleton
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OCT 26, 12:05 PM
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Are other types of cooler operating resistors available that could replace the original incendiary style? The debris should still be removed but the fire hazard might be mitigated...  [This message has been edited by David Hambleton (edited 10-26-2018).]
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Spadesluck
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OCT 26, 03:58 PM
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quote | Originally posted by Spadesluck: Why not put a screen on the hole were the fresh air comes in under the plastic cowling? I am doing this before I put mine back together. Should help with junk getting in there. |
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On top under wipers? Run wiper motor w/ windshield trim/screen off and you see have to clear wiper trans when running. Wiper trans take more room than most think because never see it running. [/QUOTE]
Not on top but under the wipers. If you take your wipers off and the plastic molding that goes around there in the middle is the hole that brings in the fresh are. A screen could be put there to keep the stuff to getting inside.[This message has been edited by Spadesluck (edited 10-26-2018).]
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theogre
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OCT 26, 07:25 PM
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quote | Originally posted by David Hambleton: Are other types of cooler operating resistors available that could replace the original incendiary style? The debris should still be removed but the fire hazard might be mitigated... |
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Not really. This setup is still used but have thermal fuse(s) to cut power for overheat from low/no airflow. The fuses often won't blow for a leaf getting stuck in/on them. Some add a metal "screen" to keep out such things and maybe could make that but make sure the screen can't cause a short or reduce airflow over the resistors. Others just use better, often more expensive, resistors that's close to many problems but many are bigger then the resistors here. Still Others have MOSFET(s)/transistors to act as resistors but changing to this setup much harder. google heater blower resistors and look at many images. (Thermal fuses are small cans size of 1/2w to 1/4w resistor.)
Finding a replacement resistor set w/ right values is tough because no-one publish that data for selling parts. Often not even in FSM and other books covering repairing heat/ac. The blower speed affect airflow to rest of systems and cool the "resistors." DIY Replacement/"Upgrade" may cause too low speed and that can cause other problems and oven heat the "resistors." "resistor" here because including MOSFET and other method to control blower speed and need blower air to cool.
Many current vehicles have 2 speed rad fan same as 84 Fiero w/ AC w/ a better resistor somewhere on rad fan motor or fan shroud. Example: from a wreck 2007 Kia, resistor was in the corner of the shroud.
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ETA--> Heat is a function low resistance and amps used in the resistor. Is why rad fan resistor above is likely rated < 1Ω @ 50w or more. (Resistor is 1 5/8" long, 1" diam.) Even 84 Fiero rad fan resistor is 0.3 Ohm @ 50 Watts, Wirewound in Ceramic shell. Heater blower resistors is similar w/ most or all < 1Ω. MOSFET etc doing same job puts out a lot of heat too and quickly fries w/o blower airflow to cool the small heatsink. All need a lot of air to cool and w/o that would likely need to double or triple the watt rating and mounted the part to heavy metal far for plastics etc. Even Fiero Dash Dim transistor is bolted to dash frame away from plastics that can melt or worse. Than only handles ~ 5 amps of dash bulbs and still can burn you if touch it. Many have use 6Ω 50w w/ aluminum case for LED "upgrades" that eat ~35w at 14v. Most are only rated at 50w with mounted to a heatsink but most buyers don't used them in a car and can melt or burn things near by because they are overheated.[This message has been edited by theogre (edited 10-27-2018).]
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