1984 Fiero Fuel Vapor Canister - Need Help Locating One (Page 1/3)
BillTrinaD JUL 27, 11:02 AM
Hi everyone,

We've got this 1984 Fiero and absolutely love it. We need to purchase a replacement fuel vapor canister for the car, though (not the filter). We were told that a Borg Warner CP1038 is a replacement for the original Pontiac part #17075840. The problem is that we can't find any supplier of the Borg Warner canister.

We're hoping someone else here has some suggestions. The best we've located is one used one in Alabama. We live in CA with really strict emissions controls. Thanks for any assistance.

Best,

BillTrina
Dennis LaGrua JUL 27, 11:09 AM
You don't need it. Just excess equipment that does nothing. I don't use them and no I'll effects.
ltlfrari JUL 27, 11:15 AM
Did you really try looking, 2 seconds on Google....
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/smp-cp1038

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BillTrinaD JUL 27, 11:24 AM
The part mentioned at the racing location is actually a SMP (Standard Motor Parts, also available at Rock Auto) CP1038 and that part does not fit the 1984 Pontiac Fiero (or any other Fiero actually). Yes, we did search. We need a Borg Warner CP1038, which is a completely different company and different part. There's one that pops up at Amazon, but it looks like the part might be discontinued.

And yes, we do need this part for the strict emissions controls out here in California or the vehicle will not pass the smog test at its next registration.

I've contacted several parts companies and the Borg Warner company directly to see if there is a supplier for this part.

Thank you for the replies.
fierofool JUL 27, 12:29 PM
If the other brands have the same ports, couldn't it be used by fabricating a different mount or modifying the present mount? They all should function the same.
theogre JUL 27, 12:41 PM
Go to any junk yard and look in any old GM car.
Part was used for many GM cars in the 80's.
Some have this hidden in a "case" to protect it. Follow 2 vac lines and 1 fuel vent line going into a bigger can/case on the frame, inner fender, etc.

If bottom filter is bad is a Frame "filter" # BA3865 to replace the floss. Can get them RA and many others. can likely find floss to make one at fabric, fish, or hobby stores.
Filter is there just to keep big crap plugging the bottom.

Note that GM Part Numbers can and does change... 22P list that as 17075840 but GM long since charge the PN.

I found this...
048 FILTER. Early Fuel Evaporation Control. Fuel Tank Evaporator/Purge Control. GM P# 07021743 $24.27
Other numbers 7021743

at http://www.wholesalegmparts...&ukey_category=19400
Short List this is used in:
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This product fits 175 vehicle variants.
Buick: 4 models, 32 variants between 1984 and 1988.
Chevrolet: 3 models, 19 variants between 1984 and 1988.
Oldsmobile: 6 models, 59 variants between 1984 and 1988.
Pontiac: 6 models, 65 variants between 1984 and 1988.



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BillTrinaD JUL 27, 12:55 PM
Thank you for the additional suggestions. It is not the filter that is bad. The seal on the canister has broken. The entire canister needs to be replaced.

We are definitely looking to see if this part can be taken from a different model. There are some 1986 Fieros in the Pick and Pull lots about 2 hours out. That's our next call - to check with them to see if there's an interchangeable part.

I appreciate the assists!
theogre JUL 27, 01:02 PM
Go to link above and look at long list there shows every car used.

Many old Fiero EVAP can's are faded but should still works.
FWD car's EVAP can's are hidden from the sun and look new.
theogre JUL 27, 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by fierofool:
If the other brands have the same ports, couldn't it be used by fabricating a different mount or modifying the present mount? They all should function the same.

All basically work the same but Making one to fit likely won't pass in CA and some other states.

Some states still forces to pass EVAP test for old cars. This includes pinching off Fuel Vent tube at the EVAP can. If can doesn't look OEM then except to fail.

EVAP test is testing 2 parts.
Gas Cap test to see if it's good.
Tank test to see tank and fill/vent lines do not leak pressure. This is why the pinch the vent line to EVAP can. Problem is have to make sure the line is closed or you fail. Is why you go to inspection on slow days. Guys then have time to check the clamp tool is tight and test again before they fail you.

Many New cars can tell you if cap is loose because EVAP test is built into the car and set MIL light on when cap is loose/bad etc. (Is why new car w/ MIL on = checking the cap as first step. Is light goes off then likely just the cap. Go to AZ etc for free scanning later just to be sure.)
cvxjet JUL 27, 05:36 PM
I live in the east SF bay area...First, can someone post up pics of the 84 so we know what it's supposed to look like...Is it the same as my 85 V6? Basically, were there any differences, year-to-year?

Second, if they are the same, and you can't find one locally, I can go to a local JY and pick one up for you.....When there is one to go to....(At the moment there are not any closer than south San Jose...)