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| 2.5l 5 speed erratic idle, slight shudder while cruising town speed, and stalling. (Page 1/2) |
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lukeeggers
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JUL 15, 11:15 AM
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I bought a fiero that had been sitting for 20 years, and have been restoring it. I have tried everything, but can't seem to get it to run right. Here's what happens. The car will start hard most of the time after it has sat over night then when driving at a constant speed will have a slight shudder. When coming to a stop sign as soon as I push the clutch in it will drop the rpm's to about 500 and often stall when it's cold. Sometimes after it gets warmed up it will fluctuate in its idle, sometimes it will be right around 1,000 rpm's, and other times it will sit at 500 rpm's. I have replaced the ecu, icm, tps, map, mat, fpr, injector, fuel pump, map, o2 sensor, egr valve, and probably more parts I am forgetting about. I am out of ideas on what to try next. No service engine light comes on.
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cebix
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JUL 15, 12:14 PM
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IAC? Vacuum leaks? Does you speedo work?
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lukeeggers
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JUL 15, 12:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cebix:
IAC? Vacuum leaks? Does you speedo work? |
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Speedo works well and I have thoroughly checked for vacuum leaks. Now the iac is an interesting topic. I attempted a replacement, and it made the car run far worse. Very high idle. Under closer inspection the spindle of the new iac was much longer. Is there a certain brand of iac I need? Maybe a difference in years I wasn't aware of?
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KurtAKX
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JUL 15, 01:41 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by lukeeggers:
Speedo works well and I have thoroughly checked for vacuum leaks. Now the iac is an interesting topic. I attempted a replacement, and it made the car run far worse. Very high idle. Under closer inspection the spindle of the new iac was much longer. Is there a certain brand of iac I need? Maybe a difference in years I wasn't aware of? |
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The spindle moves in and out (when the IAC is functioning properly) but the shape of the cone is important- not all the tips are same.
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lukeeggers
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JUL 15, 02:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by KurtAKX:
The spindle moves in and out (when the IAC is functioning properly) but the shape of the cone is important- not all the tips are same. |
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From what I remember the cone was the same shape, but the distance the spindle moved was different. The original one moved, but the new one moved much further.
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Patrick
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JUL 15, 04:13 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by lukeeggers:
The original one moved...
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I suspect it's probably okay then. Did you thoroughly clean out the IAC valve seat and air passage?
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cebix
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JUL 15, 05:34 PM
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How's your ignition aside from the ICM? I mean coil, cap, rotor, wires, plugs. Cat not stuck? EGR working properly? [This message has been edited by cebix (edited 07-15-2017).]
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VOS1319
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JUL 17, 02:33 PM
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You didn't say what year your Fiero is! It certainly matters with the ignition parts, (rotoror/cap distributor or ignition module). My first Fiero was an '84 SE, my latest an '88 2.5 w/5spd. The only time I had a really rotten idle was on the '88 when the timimg control from the PROM went kerfluey and left the car to run at 0 degrees spark advance. I changed the IAC in my '84 when I probably didn't have to, and seem to recall some warnings about only installing the critter with the pintle/cone retracted, as the cone bottoms out on the air openning if extended and may be damaged when tightened. Idle should be 1000-1100 rpm warmed up. Most other drivabilty issues occured on acceleration, when missing was caused by everthing from bad plug wires to a bad EGR or a TPS. GOOD LUCK ! Victor
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lukeeggers
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JUL 18, 07:15 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
I suspect it's probably okay then. Did you thoroughly clean out the IAC valve seat and air passage? |
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I replaced the IAC after some research and saw no change. Another point of interest is the MAT sensor. Somewhere between the ecm and the MAT sensor the temperature is reading wrong. Both the MAT sensor and the ECM have been replaced and have tested out okay. A local auto shop ran these tests for me and informed me about the misreading. Any ideas on what causes this?
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Patrick
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JUL 18, 10:42 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by lukeeggers:
I replaced the IAC after some research and saw no change.
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Ummm... that doesn't answer the question at all. Replacing the IAC valve doesn't do anything about the IAC valve seat and/or air passage.
| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Did you thoroughly clean out the IAC valve seat and air passage?
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