Fiero No.2 - 88formula 3800/F23 swap (Page 14/15)
fieroguru APR 25, 05:29 PM
Sounds like you have too much cable travel to 1, 3, 5 and not enough to 2, 4, R. Try adjusting the Shift cable to better center the range of motion to the needed movement to engage all the gears.
ignorant prodigy APR 25, 06:02 PM
You guys are awesome

I put it in reverse and it looked fine, but when i popped off the cable the lever had maybe another half inch of travel.
So I loosened the nut on the cable and threaded it in so that the end lined up with the little ball on the lever.

It shifts in all the gears now!!!

such an amazing feeling to be able to drive this car. I bought this car 7 years ago!
I work slow but damn it feels good to take it for a ride around the block

ignorant prodigy APR 25, 06:41 PM
So here's the new vs old MC. The old wasn't in the best shape to begin with so even though this wasnt my issue I'm happy with the replacement.
I had a bit of trouble getting the new brass bushing on with the eyerod. I removed the clutch safety switch to get a pair of pliers in there and managed to eventually get it, difficult to reach.
I wound up just fixing the little arm of the switch to 'bypass' the clutch..and just left it dangling there for now.





I have lowering springs for the front, and I should be able to adjust the coil overs in the rear to give it a better stance. Going to need to tires, these are old.
I actually don't mind how the front tires stick out, gives it an aggressive stance IMO


ignorant prodigy MAY 20, 10:48 AM
been a couple weeks since I updated this thread.

I noticed at one point when I was under it the car the rear plug on the floor pan looked very rusty. I needed to clean the carpets because they were covered in mice crap.
So I pulled them out.




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My Tiburon seats that I got a few years ago (page 1) had been sitting outdoors for over a year. They got pretty moldy and nasty. So I washed them up using vinegar, power washer and carpet cleaner.
This image shows them wet so they dont look this bad lol

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Met a nice guy in NH who has a ton of fieros. He sold me a section of floor pan to repair my car.

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Both headlights pins were dust. I went to replace them but basically every screw on the motors caps and assembly snapped off. So I said **** it and bought new motors.
The old headlamps worked, but were tired and dingy...

So I ordered some expensive replacements. The headlight buckets from rock auto don't fit the old or new headlamps. So I had to keep the originals which sucked. But I got all new hardware from the fierostore and cleaned up all the plastic trim. The JW Speakers seem like very high quality.



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I ordered a small shutoff valve for the IC heat exchanger to help me bleed the system. I hooked it up to the overflow tank and mounted that right to the sail panel. That way I can leave the valve open and bleed it, but when i open the trunk shut the valve so the coolant doesnt just flow into the overflow.
Not sure how effective it'll be. I figure I'll leave the hose loose and test it out before I go drilling and mounting it.

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Also my tach and speedo don't seem to have the correct values. My scanner gauge looks more accurate.

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ignorant prodigy MAY 30, 12:09 PM
I've scheduled time with a shop to weld in the replacement floor pan. Shocker the craigslist mobile welder I had stood me up.
So i figure I should go with a professional. Once I get a legit garage built I swear I'll buy my own welding equipment and learn.

I also have them repairing one of the lateral link 'pockets' on the cradle. it was rotted in some areas and I wasnt comfortable with it.
Also the stock lateral links were very rusty.. and I have a feeling adjusting them was going to be a nightmare.
This is an old photo when I was installing them


So I copied fiero guru's rear lateral link setup. kudos to him for doing all the hardwork for us lazy guys.
being the amateur I am the first attempt at cutting the tubing for the bolt sleeves I managed to get it stuck to my long bolt. To be fair this is the original long bolt which was bent.


Also, I couldn't get the tubes into the rod ends with my hands, and I only bought 1 rod so I didnt want to damage them, so I used my small vice.



The threads on the rod end seem very soft, and had a couple imperfections right out of the box. When I threaded the nuts and rods on i did my best to not force anything, and clean them the best I could.. but I wasn't really crazy about the quality of the threads.

finished product


and of course, this is fieroguru's thread where I stole his setup:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/120882.html
ignorant prodigy JUN 11, 08:08 AM
the last time it's been driven was 98. it's basically been sitting outdoors since then with the exception of maybe 4-5 years of being in my garage.
Yesterday I used the power washer to get the pollen off. It looks nice when wet.
before

after some water


Also did a cold start video the other day. just trying to keep the battery from dying on me honestly. Hopefully next week I will get the floor pan fixed and I can start thinking about registering and insuring it!

ignorant prodigy SEP 05, 02:11 PM
I got it back from the shop. They welded in a strut tower/dogbone mount. They also cross braced the rear of the frame.
Mainly it was there for the front suspension and floorpan, which is all fixed now. Also installed the lateral links.

I drove it around the block, it feel strong. Shifts smooth and sounds great. Smells like ass. 3 year old gas probably.

My tach isn't right though, and I'm hitting the rev limiter I think. It bogs down when the tach says 6k ish rpms but i'm not near that.. something to do with the vss?
Not sure yet.
ignorant prodigy OCT 26, 07:59 AM
"Lots" happened since the last update.

After getting it back from the shop to have the seat pan welded I noticed some blow by coming out of the valve cover breather.


At first, I thought it may have just been water. I put the breather on the valve cover by the cabin, and while it was outside at the shop we had some severe rain storms.


But after letting it warm up, when i goose the throttle a puff of blue smoke comes out of the exhaust. womp womp. I plan on driving it for as long as possible and keeping an eye on the oil. I think I'll buy a spare engine and build it up some, maybe get a cam? I dunno.

So while it was at the shop I had more than just the floor pan welded in.
I had them throw on the front suspension components:
KYB shocks
Lowering springs/new spring pads
All new bolts
Tie rods
poly endlinks
poly sway bar bushings
new ball joints and caps


The also built some cradle bracing (not pictured) under the trunk
And a removable brace between the strut towers to mount a dogbone to


Also a sheet metal cover for the exhaust/trunk


Lastly I had them fix some rust in the lateral link pockets on the passenger side and installed my fieroguru lateral links. (not pictured)
I need an alignment and to lower the rear coilovers to match the front of the car now.


I bought a replacement tach to fix my rpm issue. Also figured I should take the dash off to check for mice nests and clean it up.. it was so dusty and dirty. Luckily, I found none!


I tested the tach before putting it all back together, there's a little screw you can adjust, at idle it didn't quite line up with my gauge but on the gas it seemed to work.
Of course... after putting the dash back in I screwed it up somehow.. and now it's all stupid and not working. I must've missing something or broke something... naturally.

I did get the new carpets in and cleaned up the interior dash parts with some carguys cleaners. came out nice I think. I just need a better shifter bezel/console thing. Mine is falling apart.
I tried like hell to get the tiburon seats to fit using the tiburon seat tracks.. but it just wasn't going to work unless I had the seats sitting up too high.. so I gave up and bought seats from a local guy who has nice condition ones. Mine were covered in mice crap.


So.. it's getting close to being able to drive it longer than around the block. Just need an alignment really.. maybe button up some coolant hoses to make sure they don't hit the belts.. etc...


ignorant prodigy FEB 26, 02:35 PM
winnttterrr neeeds to eennnddd


ignorant prodigy APR 13, 10:20 AM
Couple updates.

1. Still a little blow-by. I changed the oil and no chunks, looked decent, but had a strong gas smell for sure. So I'm going to let it ride and buy a spare engine. Put some goop in the oil and just have fun with it.
2. I damaged the cluster when i put it back in last fall. So my tach stopped working entirely. I found a replacement and swapped everything over, so now my tach works.
3. My speedo is wrong. My PCM is setup for the right signal - so I think I need a buffer. That'll get added soon.

I brought it to an alignment shop after getting new tires. But, there were issues.
I won't rehash all my mount woes - but I think they're biting me in the ass again. When he did the alignment the driver's side axle came apart and the boot popped off. It's not sitting in the pocket anymore.
The passenger side axle is completely jammed and there's no play.. so it seems the entire assembly needs to slide towards the drivers side. Originally it was way over on that side, but the problem with that is the EP shifter bracket hits the strut tower. That was the entire reason I went through mount hell.

So.. I think I need to address the shifter bracket. I also need to fix my mounts. There's not enough play to slide them as far as they need to go... so either I need to make a set, or notch them? not sure..
The west coast fiero approach to the shifter mechanism seems to have the right idea, they come from below instead of the side.


vs. this approach:


This is how it looked with my original mounts from Dan - which I wish I had kept.. but I threw those away years ago.