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ericjon262
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JUL 03, 03:10 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fierobsessed:
I found that I could not legally register my pace car in Las Vegas due to that very issue, at least going through the proper legal channels (or challenges)
It was another case of, "well this car came with an EGR, and I do not see any EGR".
The DMV required that the manufacturer of the Engine (GM) write a letter, certifying that this engine was in fact a drivetrain from a "91 Beretta" and that it meets all the emissions equipment requirements of that engine.
Unfortunately, I did everything I could to get that letter, and NO one, NOT one person was willing to put their name on a document that would only serve as a liability to them. So there was a way to do it, but it would never happen.
There are ways around this... You could put the EGR on it, and that would make it compliant. Or just find an inspector that is corrupt, or incompetent.
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I still don't see why it would matter if it blows clean... but thats another thread.
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sardonyx247
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JUL 03, 05:24 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fierobsessed:
I found that I could not legally register my pace car in Las Vegas due to that very issue, at least going through the proper legal channels (or challenges)
It was another case of, "well this car came with an EGR, and I do not see any EGR".
The DMV required that the manufacturer of the Engine (GM) write a letter, certifying that this engine was in fact a drivetrain from a "91 Beretta" and that it meets all the emissions equipment requirements of that engine.
Unfortunately, I did everything I could to get that letter, and NO one, NOT one person was willing to put their name on a document that would only serve as a liability to them. So there was a way to do it, but it would never happen.
There are ways around this... You could put the EGR on it, and that would make it compliant. Or just find an inspector that is corrupt, or incompetent.
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This is Vegas, they all are corrupt, or incompetent, you just went to the wrong kind of incompetent, thus why he wouldn't pass you.
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ericjon262
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JUL 03, 06:57 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sardonyx247:
This is Vegas, they all are corrupt, or incompetent, you just went to the wrong kind of incompetent, thus why he wouldn't pass you.
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LOL!
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Reallybig
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JUL 03, 09:10 PM
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Everything is looking great! As you're painting, I am reminded of my engine. I painted my 4.9 black and silver (aluminum) trying to keep things clean and stock looking. With the valve covers black and the oil pan black, the whole engine just disappears in the black engine bay. A lot of my detail work just isn't noticed. I wish I had chosen a different theme color....food for thought depending on your desires for an end result.
Keep up the good work! The Quad 4 was one of my serious considerations but decided on the 4.9 because I found one low miles in great condition. Maybe next time!
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fourpoint9
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JUL 04, 05:21 PM
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Awesome job. I bought a Quad4 and then decided to do a 4.9L. Now that that one's done I'm doing the Quad4 in a Blue 87 coupe with 88 rear suspension. I bought a rebuilt W41 block from a Quad4Forums member and used all the stuff from the wrecking yard motor I bought. http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...1/HTML/086515-2.html
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zkhennings
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JUL 05, 03:01 PM
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I faked having an egr. I just used some metal wire to attach it to the cross over and then just shoved the tube under the intake and wrapped where it met the crossover with a metal foil and thin sheet metal. It looked very convincing. But I guess my fiero does not have to pass emmissions any more so they did nt even look under the hood. I thought it did because the RMV's site said 83 or older did not have to pass while mine is an 85, but I learned later is a 25 year old deal and the dmvs site was outdated. But regardless I am sure my fake egr job would have fooled them.
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sardonyx247
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JUL 05, 08:45 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Reallybig:
With the valve covers black and the oil pan black, the whole engine just disappears in the black engine bay. A lot of my detail work just isn't noticed. I wish I had chosen a different theme color....food for thought depending on your desires for an end result.
Keep up the good work! The Quad 4 was one of my serious considerations but decided on the 4.9 because I found one low miles in great condition. Maybe next time! |
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I want it all to fade into the engine bay. 
A few more painted parts. Some misc. brackets and the water fill housing.


All the black parts so far.

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josef644
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JUL 05, 10:16 PM
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This is a swap I always wanted to do. I check in every few days and see your progress. Keep up the good work. -Joe
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sardonyx247
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JUL 06, 07:59 AM
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Reassembly time. 
The bare block.


The pistons and rods.

The "free floating pin" on the piston is held in by a clip on both sides of the pistons. You can see the clip here.

And how the clip sits in the piston. Make sure the rod is facing the correct direction when reassembled on the piston. (The oil squirt hole on the rod is on the same side as the valve reliefs.)

The main caps.

The crank back in the engine waiting for the main caps to be torqued down.

Putting the pistons back in. Make sure the arrow on the piston is pointing to the front of the engine.

I always tap the sides of the ring compressor down with a hammer to make sure the compressor is square with the top of the block. (It helps the rings not pop out if there is a gap)

The boots on the rod bolts, you can also use rubber hose.

All the pistons in and torqued down.

With the windage tray, oil pump, and oil pick up support on.


I ran thread chasers in all the bolt holes on the block. If you use a tap, use a good quality tap like craftsman, do not use harbor freight taps, they are just a tad bigger and will make the bolts loose. I made my own thread chasers from old bolts and a dremal to cut the grooves in the bolts.


I still have to finish up and assemble the head before I can put it back on, and a bunch of seals to replace. More to come......
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sardonyx247
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JUL 07, 01:11 AM
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