A retrofit for gen 1 headlight (Not a gen 2 swap) (Page 7/10) Dukesterpro APR 21, 03:44 AM quote Originally posted by sanderson231: Everybody has there own opinion but if I could get a reliable control module I would run from the Gen I headlights at the first opportunity. I have rebuilt several Gen I headlights. The problem used to be stripped gears. On the latest rebuild I used up the last of my spares brushes to find ones where the contacts didn't fall off. If you go the Rodney route you'll be gluing on the contacts and who knows how long that will last. Then this will be the module for you! The 84 in the demonstration video had Cardone Gen 2 headlight motors plugged in with no modifications required. That is my choice of motor, they are just so quiet and reliable. Dukesterpro APR 21, 03:47 AM quote Originally posted by Lambo nut: Been watching this for a while and will now ask my question. Any reason the module wouldn't work with simple linear actuators in a custom setup? This motor will work with any 12-volt DC actuator that has a locked end of travel. The motor has to stall at the end of its travel. In theory, the module would not require any modifications to work with something like that. As it stands now, I have plugged it in directly to everything from a mercury cougar to a triumph TR7 and it worked almost out of the gate for all of them. Lambo nut APR 23, 12:05 PM quote Originally posted by Dukesterpro: This motor will work with any 12-volt DC actuator that has a locked end of travel. The motor has to stall at the end of its travel. In theory, the module would not require any modifications to work with something like that. As it stands now, I have plugged it in directly to everything from a mercury cougar to a triumph TR7 and it worked almost out of the gate for all of them. Thanks for the response. Sounds promising. Wichita APR 23, 07:15 PM Im all about upgrading. Even though my gen 1's are rebuilt, I'm good with getting 2nd gen motors, or any other retrofit motors if they are brushless, quieter, faster or whatever. I'm good with it. Dukesterpro APR 24, 09:26 AM I think for the mean time, or atleast for the first round of beta testers we are going to just go with second gen motor compliancy for now. I want to get another month of testing on my final version for now. Then in June I will move a few Beta Testing units for a few people who would like to be testers. I will keep everyone updated reinhart APR 25, 03:38 AM Watched your video. Very cool system. Nice work. BTW your left bulb is out. Is your control module a direct replacement for the control module for the 87-88 Gen 2 system? Is it literally a remove old control module and plug in your control module and done? Would it be that simple or would other components neeed replacement as well as additional wiring mods? Also what are you thinking the price would be for an 87-88 owner that just wants a new control module (not needing the brush holder setups that the Gen1 guys need)? Dukesterpro APR 25, 01:39 PM quote Originally posted by reinhart: Watched your video. Very cool system. Nice work. BTW your left bulb is out. Is your control module a direct replacement for the control module for the 87-88 Gen 2 system? Is it literally a remove old control module and plug in your control module and done? Would it be that simple or would other components neeed replacement as well as additional wiring mods? Also what are you thinking the price would be for an 87-88 owner that just wants a new control module (not needing the brush holder setups that the Gen1 guys need)? Its plug in play in the nature that it requires no other components except what's included in the kit. It does require some simple wiring. The Gen 2 kit includes -The module. -The plug pigtail for adapting the original wiring coming from the cabin to the modules power plug. -Crossover Cables (2 wire strands that plug each headlight into the module) Steps to install in Gen II original systems currently are, - cut plug off harness going to old module and route to location where you want the new module. (I recommend inside the trunk/spare tire area instead of the fender well) -remove old harness going to headlight motors (OPTIONAL) -crimp or solder new plug onto old harness from cabin -plug module in -plug crossover cables in -route cables to headlight motors and plug in. If I find out which plug the original gen 2 module uses I might be able to make it plug and play. Someone would have to send me a dead module. I don't have one available at the moment I sold the one on my 88 to fund this project lol (I am committed to my design) Basically the module is looking for the same 3 things the original module is looking for 12V+ Constant, 12V Switched (Headlight On/OFF) and GND. I'm not making any commitments on price at the moment. I am trying however to keep the module only kit price at around 200-220$ Right now the final version of the Gen 2 module has about 2 weeks of strenuous real world driving/testing and has no issues so far. Rjberner46 APR 25, 10:56 PM I'm sure you'll get plenty of volunteers but I would be willing to be a beta tester if you need me. I'm excited to rid myself of the GEN 1 motors. I'm tired of taking them apart and fixing them. reinhart APR 28, 03:13 AM quote Originally posted by Dukesterpro: I'm not making any commitments on price at the moment. I am trying however to keep the module only kit price at around 200-220$ Right now the final version of the Gen 2 module has about 2 weeks of strenuous real world driving/testing and has no issues so far. Replacement Gen 2 used modules are readily available for $150-200. You might have some problems selling your kit at a price that's higher than a replacement. Dukesterpro APR 28, 11:20 AM -Used, unrepairable module that is at best 30 years old, with no new suppliers, from a company that would rather sue you for trying to keep there cars on the road? -New, user serviceable module, that can be continually rebuilt at home with cheap parts from someone who is not only actively developing the module, but it ensuring that the module does exactly what the community will want out of it. If that isn't worth 200 dollars to people, I understand. I don't need to sell a bajillion of these. If I sell 3 units to people who want those benefits, then I will be happy. If I don't sell a single unit, I will be happy, because my cars headlights work. I also understand some would want to keep it OEM. But parts are running out, the number of cars with Gen1 systems vastly outnumbers the Gen2 cars, on top of that Gen 2 cars are less likely to be parted out. . .