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quote Originally posted by Darth Fiero: The Energy Suspension 9.6118R poly spring pads will keep the coil over spring centered on and from rubbing on the metal parts of the upper strut mounting plate.

Will that only occur if the "nub" of the top plate is facing downwards? In other words, do those pads rely on the "nub" being in the middle of them to help keep the springs centered?

As you're no doubt aware, the "nub" is often pointed upwards so as to return the strut to a more normalized position after the suspension has been lowered... as was discussed HERE. So I'm wondering if the top plates are installed in this manner, will the spring pads you recommended still keep the springs centered? It appears to me that it wouldn't still work if installed this way, so that's why I'm double-checking and asking all these questions.

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quote Originally posted by Patrick: Will that only occur if the "nub" of the top plate is facing downwards? In other words, do those pads rely on the "nub" being in the middle of them to help keep the springs centered? As you're no doubt aware, the "nub" is often pointed upwards so as to return the strut to a more normalized position after the suspension has been lowered... as was discussed HERE. So I'm wondering if the top plates are installed in this manner, will the spring pads you recommended still keep the springs centered? It appears to me that it wouldn't still work if installed this way, so that's why I'm double-checking and asking all these questions.

The upper strut mounting plate "nub" is supposed to be installed facing down, not up. The poly spring pads center on that nub, and those pads center the spring.

That having been said, I suppose you could either glue the poly pad to the upside down strut mount to keep it centered OR you could search thru Energy Suspension's catalog and see if they make a spring pad that will center the coil-over spring off the strut rod itself (they have many different design and style spring pads they sell).

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quote Originally posted by Darth Fiero: The upper strut mounting plate "nub" is supposed to be installed facing down, not up.

Oh... I know! However, there's a slight possibility that there is some benefit from flipping that plate over in regards to the strut's performance with a lowered suspension.

quote Originally posted by Darth Fiero: The poly spring pads center on that nub, and those pads center the spring.

Okay, that's what I suspected. Thanks for the clarification.

quote Originally posted by Darth Fiero: That having been said, I suppose you could... search thru Energy Suspension's catalog and see if they make a spring pad that will center the coil-over spring off the strut rod itself (they have many different design and style spring pads they sell).

Thanks Darth, I'll take a look.

EDIT: I had a look at This page, but it appears there's nothing with a small enough center hole. Oh well, at least I know what's available.

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quote Originally posted by Charlie1963: Ryan, I purchased the Allstar ALL64143 sleeve kits and am working on putting them on my KYB struts. I've installed the sleeve, adjuster and spring but am wondering if I've got the other pieces in the correct order. Is the order correct in the picture? Thanks

Everything looks like it is in the correct order in the picture you posted. However, I did not use the upper spring mount (cone shaped black item in your picture that mounts on the strut above the spring and jounce bumper) that came with the Allstar kit in my conversion. If you use the upper spring mount provided in the kit, you may experience increased ride height (especially if using 10" or taller springs) and you won't be able to use the Energy Suspension coil spring isolator pads.

You can also remove the factory upper spring perch that you have shown in your picture. All you need is the upper strut mounting plate. While the upper spring mounting plate does have mounting holes in it, you can tap in some 5/16" diameter carriage bolts so you won't have to worry about holding the heads of standard bolts with a wrench when you tighten down the strut plate to strut tower mounting nuts. You'll need 2x 1" long and 1x 1 1/2" long carriage bolts for each strut mounting plate. The longer bolt installs closest to the engine while the two shorter bolts install closest to the outer body panel. Make sure you get new nuts and washers as the factory nuts are metric and won't work with SAE threads.

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