Project 3400 Roller Cam Block (Page 60/82)
zkhennings DEC 04, 01:05 PM
Just north of Boston in Reading, not too too far away
project34 JAN 02, 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by lou_dias:
I pick up my DAWG-modded intake on Friday!


You posted that a bit more than a month ago.

May I ask from whom and how you obtained a "DAWG-modded" intake? Did it end up coming from a machine shop local to your area, or from somebody else? I ask because I'd like to get one for my 3.4L, and Dawg appears not to have posted anything on any PFF forum for well over a year.


Separately, I'm looking foward to seeing the upcoming dyno results for your "DAWG-modded intake", versus a Trueleo intake, on your "Project 3400 Roller Cam Block". Those dyno results should prove interesting.

lou_dias JAN 02, 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by project34:

You posted that a bit more than a month ago.

May I ask from whom and how you obtained a "DAWG-modded" intake? Did it end up coming from a machine shop local to your area, or from somebody else? I ask because I'd like to get one for my 3.4L, and Dawg appears not to have posted anything on any PFF forum for well over a year.


Separately, I'm looking foward to seeing the upcoming dyno results for your "DAWG-modded intake", versus a Trueleo intake, on your "Project 3400 Roller Cam Block". Those dyno results should prove interesting.


Hi, I had a local machine shop do it for $200. Haven't installed it yet. Was gonna take out some timing after 4800rpm on my current setup and dyno again since I now have the fuel dialed in and I do hear pinging up top which is probably what was capping my peak hp at around 4900...but I figure might as well just stop investing in that setup and just wait until I swap over the DAWG'd intake.

May be another month or so before I even bother. Might have to use it as a daily as is since my 2 other Fieros need some maintenance. Waiting for this snow storm to go away too since I still have the racing tires on it...

Grantman JAN 02, 08:36 PM
That looks really nice, a cross between what the truelo is trying to accomplish and the Dawg mod. Looks like a Dawg intake on steroids!! Has he tried this out to see how it works? I have a Dawg-like modified intake on my 3.4, but since I didn't drive the 3.4 before I put it on I didn't have anything to compare it with.
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1986 Fiero GT Fastback 3.4Lpr with 4T60
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee with "big boy" 5.9 motor
1983 Honda Goldwing 1100 Interstate

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lou_dias JAN 03, 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by Grantman:

That looks really nice, a cross between what the truelo is trying to accomplish and the Dawg mod. Looks like a Dawg intake on steroids!! Has he tried this out to see how it works? I have a Dawg-like modified intake on my 3.4, but since I didn't drive the 3.4 before I put it on I didn't have anything to compare it with.


Those ports still look stock though. On page 7 of this thread you can see how much larger my ports were over stock and when compared to a stock GEN3 intake.

A dyno will answer your question. The "typical" 3.4 w/Fiero intake hits a wall somewhere around 4100-4500 rpm. If it's a basic swap, you'll hit it at 4500, if your engine is more efficient, you'll hit it sooner like I did. That neck was a choke point. Since I had money to burn at that time, I chose to just Trueleo + '7730 it at the same time and thus began years of headaches...

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lou_dias JAN 17, 10:46 AM
Just an update.
All projects are on hold as I'm trying to buy a house.
Hopefully I can start spending money again in March.
ericjon262 JAN 17, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by lou_dias:

That looks pretty cool, actually. Hopefully I won't need it but we'll see.

Where in Massachusetts are you?




ah you won't need that, head flow numbers don't mean anything so why would intake flow numbers help.

lou_dias JAN 17, 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by ericjon262:
ah you won't need that, head flow numbers don't mean anything so why would intake flow numbers help.


Welcome back troll!
Dyno #'s are the only thing that matter. I've already done 187/249 on a mustang dyno by maintaining a TPI effect. I don't need much more than that.
When will you get it thru your thick skull that I don't plan on revving this thing past 5500 rpm? When I want to go to 6500, come talk to me, I might give a crap then.
ericjon262 JAN 20, 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by lou_dias:

Welcome back troll!
Dyno #'s are the only thing that matter. I've already done 187/249 on a mustang dyno by maintaining a TPI effect. I don't need much more than that.
When will you get it thru your thick skull that I don't plan on revving this thing past 5500 rpm? When I want to go to 6500, come talk to me, I might give a crap then.



I never said anything about 6500 RPM did I?

I'm just still having trouble grasping why cylinder head flow doesn't mean anything, yet you're trying to increase flow everywhere else....
lou_dias JAN 20, 07:16 AM

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Originally posted by ericjon262:
I never said anything about 6500 RPM did I?

I'm just still having trouble grasping why cylinder head flow doesn't mean anything, yet you're trying to increase flow everywhere else....


It's simple:

1) you replied to a quote about the intake, not the head
2) cylinder head flow is limited by how much vacuum an engine makes which is a function of it's displacement and RPM. So, over-size your ports too much you'll actually reduce your torque because your air velocity will slow down...
3) if I port heads to flow 250/224 in/ex and the motor makes 140 hp, what good was all that flow?

When are you going to realize that all you do is troll?
Further more, La Fiera's CNC ported heads flow as much as stock aluminum heads and he removed the vane that balances the flow around the valve stem...which reduces flow on iron heads.
My heads have already made as much torque as any V6/60 and considering I'm running a stock cam, that's pretty amazing. Once I throw the old intake on with the new DAWG mod, I expect more since my peak was at 3600 with the stock intake neck.

Would you like me to go troll your turbo 3500 build?