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Neils88
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OCT 07, 08:26 PM
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I decided to do a little work on prototyping the door glass setup. On the weekend, I had gone to the local pick n pull (conveniently called "Kenny U-Pull"... ) and looked around for a car with window curvature similar to the Aventador. I have oem door glass going in (which I already have)...and so I brought a curvature template with me. Much to my surprise, the glass from a Grand Prix (I believe I got everything from a 2003) is identical to Aventador. This surprised me since the oem glass seemed quite curved...I didn't think anything would match. Happily I grabbed the window regulators, plus the front and rear tracks.
This is what the Grand Prix regulator looks like:

...and the front and rear window rails:

The front rail that I'll be using is actually the rear rail on the Grand Prix. But also conveniently, the rear rail has an integral trim piece that is removable from the door. This is significant, since most doors have this piece as part of the door frame and therefore not removable. This is the part that is exposed so it's important to have a decent fitting piece. I'll have to make it a little narrower to better match the Aventador trim piece, but the important thing is that the rail matches my glass. More to follow on this at a later date. The rear rail is plastic. I actually got these from a newer Grand Prix, but that had the same curvature as the older Grand Prix .
Now for the downside. The regulator and rails are about 7" too long for the door, so I needed to do some majorly creative adaption.

So this was my solution:

As you can see, I shortened the tracks, and then added the small insert to stretch out the cable. I could have left it and simply shortened the cable, but shortening the cables would be the tougher option. It fits well inside the door:


I still need to create some mounting points to hold everything in place. You can see the approximate placement (without the side tracks for now).

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Neils88
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OCT 09, 06:11 PM
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So today was just one of those days. This weekend I decided to carry on the work I've been doing with the power windows and shorten the passenger side tracks. I wasn't paying attention and welded the extension piece to the wrong end of the track. So I decided to cut it off and weld it to the right end...and of course the small plastic pulley decided to catch fire and melt. And...(yes there's an And...) if all that wasn't bad enough, when I hooked everything back together I found the cable was suddenly about 8" too short. Turns out, that yesterday I had hooked up the power to the motor briefly just to put some slack in the cable....while the other cable was disconnected. Fyi. Don't do that. Since there was no resistive force, the cable had twisted and wrapped up inside the motor...and everything I did after that just made it worse. You also can't open up the motor to fix this problem. So....next weekend, I'll be heading back to the pick n pull to get another regulator.
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2.5
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OCT 10, 08:33 AM
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If it ends up too heavier than expected, just add more HP
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Threedog
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OCT 13, 09:53 AM
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So uh, at which point is this no longer a Fiero? Ship of thesus stuff hahaha
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Neils88
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OCT 13, 04:37 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Threedog:
So uh, at which point is this no longer a Fiero? Ship of thesus stuff hahaha |
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Let's see....it has (or will have when finished) about 50% of the original space frame left, the pedals, the gas tank, parts of one wiring harness and the seats (soon to have new leather covers)...pretty much everything else will be new/replaced. There will actually be more OEM Aventador parts on it than Fiero parts.... but I'm guessing if I drove it up to a Lamborghini dealership they'd let me know it's still just a Fiero... 
I actually stopped calling it "my Fiero" a while ago. It just no longer seemed appropriate for exactly that reason. Lol
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Neils88
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OCT 13, 04:44 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
If it ends up too heavier than expected, just add more HP  |
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Phase III of the project is going to take care of all the weight issues, lol. Current plan is a longitudinal twin turbo V12 (BMW 760Li) ... but I haven't measured it for fit yet, so that may have to change. But I promise whatever ends up in there will put a smile on my face
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RCR
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OCT 14, 07:28 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Neils88:
So today was just one of those days. This weekend I decided to carry on the work I've been doing with the power windows and shorten the passenger side tracks. I wasn't paying attention and welded the extension piece to the wrong end of the track. So I decided to cut it off and weld it to the right end...and of course the small plastic pulley decided to catch fire and melt. And...(yes there's an And...) if all that wasn't bad enough, when I hooked everything back together I found the cable was suddenly about 8" too short. Turns out, that yesterday I had hooked up the power to the motor briefly just to put some slack in the cable....while the other cable was disconnected. Fyi. Don't do that. Since there was no resistive force, the cable had twisted and wrapped up inside the motor...and everything I did after that just made it worse. You also can't open up the motor to fix this problem. So....next weekend, I'll be heading back to the pick n pull to get another regulator. |
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LOL, Sorry Neil, sometimes you have to grin and bare it. Two weekends ago, I wanted to tinker and finish off my front rocker mount. While welding it on, I blew through the chassis. Not typically a big deal, until I saw flames on the inside. In my haste, i didn't make sure everything was clear and caught that 30 year old dry jute on fire. Talk about panic mode. Fortunately, no damage and everything was ok. Killed the mood though and I was done...
Bob
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Bozzie
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OCT 14, 07:57 PM
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Neil.......Man, you take everything to the 9th degree. Modding regulators ????? DAMN !! Super COOL ! When I saw them welded up I thought to myself ........I wonder how many takes THAT took ????? Cause GOD knows most one off things are a few off just to get there. Don't let it get you down buddy. RCR ^^^^^^^ that's CRAZY what happened to you ! Glad all's good afterwords. At that point its "drop the mic" time and walk away. Great job GUYS !! Keep the updates coming.....ALWAYS looking for inspiration 
Boz
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Neils88
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OCT 14, 11:28 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by RCR: LOL, Sorry Neil, sometimes you have to grin and bare it. Two weekends ago, I wanted to tinker and finish off my front rocker mount. While welding it on, I blew through the chassis. Not typically a big deal, until I saw flames on the inside. In my haste, i didn't make sure everything was clear and caught that 30 year old dry jute on fire. Talk about panic mode. Fortunately, no damage and everything was ok. Killed the mood though and I was done...
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I've had a few minor fires as well...several of them involved me setting fire to myself... I'm going to pick up a new regulator tomorrow. Hopefully I'll be able to just swap in the motor assembly, but if necessary I'll mod another regulator. Stay tuned...
| quote | Originally posted by Bozzie: Neil.......Man, you take everything to the 9th degree. Modding regulators ????? DAMN !! Super COOL ! When I saw them welded up I thought to myself ........I wonder how many takes THAT took ????? Cause GOD knows most one off things are a few off just to get there. Don't let it get you down buddy. RCR ^^^^^^^ that's CRAZY what happened to you ! Glad all's good afterwords. At that point its "drop the mic" time and walk away. Great job GUYS !! Keep the updates coming.....ALWAYS looking for inspiration 
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I was lucky that first one worked perfectly, otherwise I probably would have walked away from the concept. But now that I know it works I'll keep at it. The most important thing was to get the track ground as smooth as possible around the weld site. I find that fine work with my new grinder is much tougher than with my old Dewalt grinder....but still gives a better finish over using my Dremel.
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Neils88
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OCT 15, 06:16 PM
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I picked up a couple of replacement regulators at the pick n pull today. I only really needed one track/motor unit, but decided to grab two just so I'd have a spare just in case I messed up another one. This time it came out perfectly. 
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