1987 gt rebuild (Page 4/6)
cartercarbaficionado JUL 16, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by 1985 Fiero GT:


Well yeah, the whole assembly "fits" they aren't going to change the mounting points on the space frame for the different shifters, it won't feel right though, or even work at all well, as the reverse lockout will now apply for 1st/2nd gear, as that is built into the shifter on the 4 speed, definitely not what you want. The reverse lights will also be on in 1st/2nd, and not in reverse.


I'm fairly sure it will work fine since the getrag has the reverse light switch in it. also there is litterally no reverse lockout on either of my shifters so.... hopefully its in the transmission
1985 Fiero GT JUL 16, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by cartercarbaficionado:

I'm fairly sure it will work fine since the getrag has the reverse light switch in it. also there is litterally no reverse lockout on either of my shifters so.... hopefully its in the transmission



The "reverse lock out" isn't a true lock out, it's similar to the parts on a door that roll along and hold it into 2 open positions, it takes a great deal of effort (so much that the only 2 times I took it to a garage, they couldn't figure out how to get it into reverse) to get it into the first of the 3 "columns" if you will, that has reverse on the 4 speed, but 1st/2nd an any 5 speed applicable. I think the "lockout" can be removed, if so, then it will work fine, if not, it'll be the worst experience ever, if it works at all.
cartercarbaficionado JUL 16, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by 1985 Fiero GT:


The "reverse lock out" isn't a true lock out, it's similar to the parts on a door that roll along and hold it into 2 open positions, it takes a great deal of effort (so much that the only 2 times I took it to a garage, they couldn't figure out how to get it into reverse) to get it into the first of the 3 "columns" if you will, that has reverse on the 4 speed, but 1st/2nd an any 5 speed applicable. I think the "lockout" can be removed, if so, then it will work fine, if not, it'll be the worst experience ever, if it works at all.


personally I've punched through the lockout finding first on a 86 v6 4 speed with an 84 shifter more times than I care ti count. on the other hand I'm probably gonna break the bolts so I'm able to just swap the entire shift arm and pivot over right?
1985 Fiero GT JUL 16, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by cartercarbaficionado:

personally I've punched through the lockout finding first on a 86 v6 4 speed with an 84 shifter more times than I care ti count. on the other hand I'm probably gonna break the bolts so I'm able to just swap the entire shift arm and pivot over right?



Some lockouts are stiffer than others. The shift arm is entirely universal, there are different sizes and shapes, but they all work on every shifter. I don't know what you mean by "break the bolts" and the pivot. The only thing that is swappable is the outer part of the shift pivot (one piece with the shifter arm) that rotates on the shifter assembly.
cartercarbaficionado JUL 16, 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by 1985 Fiero GT:


Some lockouts are stiffer than others. The shift arm is entirely universal, there are different sizes and shapes, but they all work on every shifter. I don't know what you mean by "break the bolts" and the pivot. The only thing that is swappable is the outer part of the shift pivot (one piece with the shifter arm) that rotates on the shifter assembly.


yeah that part is fine on my shifter. I need the lower shifter arm for the side to side movement since it broke. this why I have the 84 shifter
Yellow-88 JUL 16, 10:49 PM
What tool did you use on that vintage spark plug?
There's some Omanis shiny metal showing. And not a whole lot of corners left either.
Yellow-88 JUL 16, 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by cartercarbaficionado:

yeah that part is fine on my shifter. I need the lower shifter arm for the side to side movement since it broke. this why I have the 84 shifter



Can you weld?
cartercarbaficionado JUL 17, 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by Yellow-88:

What tool did you use on that vintage spark plug?
There's some Omanis shiny metal showing. And not a whole lot of corners left either.


used a 13 mm on the 5/8s plug...yeah it was bad
also got my arm welded up by a friend so should work once I grind it
cartercarbaficionado JUL 18, 05:30 AM
I think my gas miiiiight be bad. only like 21 years old lol.
gas tank is surprisingly not rusty so I just gotta find out what will dissolve the chunks of varnished gas. oh and maybe figure out why the pump doesn't work. I'm assuming it was either dead 20 years ago or just really stuck now

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Yellow-88 JUL 19, 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by cartercarbaficionado:

I think my gas miiiiight be bad. only like 21 years old lol.
gas tank is surprisingly not rusty so I just gotta find out what will dissolve the chunks of varnished gas. oh and maybe figure out why the pump doesn't work. I'm assuming it was either dead 20 years ago or just really stuck now



Lacquer thinner is my go to nasty cleaner. Swish it around for a while.
Just don't keep sticking your nose in the hole to see how it's working.

I think a new pump is a good idea.