3800 SC Exhaust System - Headers anyone?... I need another 20-40 HP!! (Page 4/4) OntarioKev JAN 24, 07:44 PM Would your tires allow you to leave harder? Someone already mentioned the 3.69 gearset change, what about a higher stall torque converter? Without getting serious there isn't too much more to gain on the SC (think heads + bigger cam like XPZ). The intercooler and dropping a bit on the pulley might help, but I don't think its a very effective return on investment. Are you completely adverse to putting a turbo on? DimeMachine JAN 25, 02:26 PM quote Originally posted by OntarioKev: Would your tires allow you to leave harder? Someone already mentioned the 3.69 gearset change, what about a higher stall torque converter? Without getting serious there isn't too much more to gain on the SC (think heads + bigger cam like XPZ). The intercooler and dropping a bit on the pulley might help, but I don't think its a very effective return on investment. Are you completely adverse to putting a turbo on? I agree & logic tells me that going to a lower ratio gear would help launch harder and get that long amount of time spent in 3rd gear at a higher RPM. I found an old thread (attached below) and several PFF members chimed in that it wont help much due to the L67 long broad torque curve. http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...160323-2-128300.html Anyone have any experience to dispute the contents of the above thread? DimeMachine JAN 25, 02:31 PM quote Originally posted by OntarioKev: Would your tires allow you to leave harder? Someone already mentioned the 3.69 gearset change, what about a higher stall torque converter? Without getting serious there isn't too much more to gain on the SC (think heads + bigger cam like XPZ). The intercooler and dropping a bit on the pulley might help, but I don't think its a very effective return on investment. Are you completely adverse to putting a turbo on? More goode thoughts and ideas - much apprediated, keep em coming!! Three main reasons I don't want to turbo it. 1. Cost, the goal of this car since I built it 8+ years ago has been to go pretty darn fast for low $$$ Thus the name "DimeMachine"... 2. Turbo opens the door to 500+ hp. There used to be a chain available that allowed the 4t65E HD (with other upgrades) to handle this kind of HP. Now I believe that chain is no longer available and so 400WHP is about all the tranny can be build to handle. Kind of a waste to go Turbo if you can only barely get into the turbo's potential. 3. I love the instant torque the M90 gives the 3800 with the stock converter anytime you punch it at the stop light. La fiera JAN 25, 10:34 PM How much does it weight with you in it? Lighter weight = acceleration. Look for ways to make it lighter. My Fiero weights 2350+ with me in it and it makes 304WHP and accelerates pretty fast. You should look into making it lighter instead of making it more powerful! Just a thought! sourmash JAN 26, 05:21 AM I don't know but have seen people who seem to know state that the gen V supercharger is superior to a ported gen III. If so, they shouldn't be that hard to find since I've got two of them. hnthomps JAN 27, 10:50 AM quote Originally posted by DimeMachine: Nice looking swap. Have you had the chance to run the 1/4 with it? That particular engine is in my primary show car. I am not really into drag racing and have enough invested in this restored 88 Mera that it is unlikely to make a timed quarter mile run. Nelson DimeMachine JAN 27, 02:40 PM quote Originally posted by hnthomps: That particular engine is in my primary show car. I am not really into drag racing and have enough invested in this restored 88 Mera that it is unlikely to make a timed quarter mile run. Nelson Roger that, totally get it, different strokes for different folks. hnthomps JAN 28, 09:56 AM quote Originally posted by DimeMachine: Roger that, totally get it, different strokes for different folks. This is another 88 Mera project car that I might consider running a quarter mile after the engine is tuned. The exterior is ugly but paint will eventually cure that. Nelson DimeMachine FEB 06, 12:17 PM quote Originally posted by hnthomps: This is another 88 Mera project car that I might consider running a quarter mile after the engine is tuned. The exterior is ugly but paint will eventually cure that. Nelson Tuned up that should scoot pretty good!!