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Patrick
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APR 20, 11:01 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:
At the lowest line on the stick it said "Add 5L" or so I thought.
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 [This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 04-20-2021).]
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Spoon
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APR 20, 11:22 PM
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Cliff, you could try this idea. I did it when I had a 2.8 but it'll work on any dipstick. White paint may show better but yellow was all I had at the time.
Spoon
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Cliff Pennock
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APR 21, 10:25 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by RWDPLZ:
For future reference: Most dipsticks, between the full and low marks, is 1 Quart. |
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Which is not a unit used in Europe. Quart sounds like it means 4. So I was actually right on the dot with my 4 Liter. 😁
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Patrick
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APR 21, 11:40 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:
Quart sounds like it means 4.
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It does. 1 quart = 4 cups
| quote | Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:
Which is not a unit used in Europe.
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Nor in Canada.
And yes, it's an archaic form of measurement. Americans simply refuse to let go of it.  [This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 04-21-2021).]
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theogre
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APR 21, 12:44 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by RWDPLZ:
For future reference: Most dipsticks, between the full and low marks, is 1 Quart. |
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⚠️ Only for Engine Oil. Not for GM and other AT units.
Many AT dip sticks are even Labeled "Add 1 Pint or 0.5L"
(Full size is 2523x762 and is a Macro Pic of a 87 AT dip stick.)
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Fiero OM and says...
Exact conversion is 1 pint = 0.473176
Note: If you drive a long time on a highway etc or have TCC problems then Oil can be Too Hot to check. OM and other says...
My above directions is add 1 pint of AT oil to a cold car until you read oil on the stick or be closer to Add zone when have above problem. In Fiero and similar... Fill cold to numbers in Add direction. (this includes refilling AT oil after changing or other work.) Depending how low could be 1 q/L or even more but only fill 1pint/0.5L then check. Should still read low but then safe enough to drive so can check and fill a hot trans.
Otherwise you overfill and cause other problems. Overfill can cause Oil Foaming and the trans will suck air w/ oil...
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theogre
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APR 21, 01:15 PM
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Why do you Check AT oil Hot w/ Engine Running?
2 reasons...
● Torque Converter etc will drain making the stick to read High to Very High w/ engine off.
● AT Oil expanse enough to change level to read on a stick. More so in cold weather.
Radiator AT "cooler" is not just for Cooling. It makes sure AT Oil get Hot enough and quickly in cool/cold weather and stays Hot.
TCC active for a long time driving on a highway can allow oil to cool below operational temp w/o the Rad "cooler" heating the oil.
But TCC that stays unlock in city driving or have problems can make the oil to "over heat" and "fake" the oil level is too high on the stick and have the Warning above in OM etc because of that.
Why is that?
Torque Converters are the main Heat Generator for Auto Trans.
"Newer" TC that have Lockup features Generate More Heat when unlock for any reason because you get more Torque Multiplier etc generating more Heat then "Old School" AT w/o Locking TC.[This message has been edited by theogre (edited 04-21-2021).]
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RWDPLZ
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APR 21, 07:52 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:
Which is not a unit used in Europe. Quart sounds like it means 4. So I was actually right on the dot with my 4 Liter. 😁 |
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It's short for Quarter (of a Gallon). Also helps the conversion to Liters is basically 1:1 in smaller quantities.
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Cliff Pennock
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APR 22, 01:43 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by RWDPLZ:
It's short for Quarter (of a Gallon). Also helps the conversion to Liters is basically 1:1 in smaller quantities. |
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Yes I know. I was j/k 😄
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cebix
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APR 22, 01:09 PM
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Good thing GM used metric nuts and bolts on these cars. Would be a pain otherwise to work on these here.
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reinhart
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APR 26, 04:19 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Nor in Canada.
And yes, it's an archaic form of measurement. Americans simply refuse to let go of it.
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Americans refuse to let go of the idea of a "quart" or "quarter"? Don't you have a looney quarter? It just means 1/4th. It has nothing to do with Imperial or metric unit. One can have a quarter of any unit obviously.
Besides the Imperial system makes 100x more sense than the metric one. A foot = you guessed it...it's about the size of an average man's foot. A yard is an average stride. An acre is the average amount of area a team of oxen could till in a day.
Now how practical is a meter? Ok so it's like 1/10000000th of the earths diameter? That's useful in every day life.
I will confess that Celcius is more logical than Fahrenheit but that's the exception.
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