2016 Buick Regal Turbo Ecotec motor for a swap, what are the challenges? (Page 3/4)
Raydar MAY 19, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by wftb:

What is the name of the automatic that is bolted to your LTG ? This is a rear drive tranny that is listed as the manual for the LTG, no fwd trans is listed on the Chevy performance website.




They do, however, list a FWD 6 speed manual trans Engine controller and install guide.
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"Front Wheel Drive with 6 Speed Manual Trans Kit Part Number 19331686"

The engine controller looks to be "stand alone". Probably spendy as hell, but it kind of gives some hope that maybe the tune can be loaded into an existing PCM, that is already in hand.
(Of course, that doesn't help with the trans. )

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qwikgta MAY 21, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by arbakken:

Both the 2011-2013 and 2014-2016 F40 6 speed option code is MR6, but they don't seem to interchange. The regal didn't get the LTG until 2014, so I guess it's possible they changed the transmission... but... man that seems dumb




yep, for one car, the Regal GS, and three years of production they changed the bellhousing for the F40.
qwikgta MAY 21, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:

They do, however, list a FWD 6 speed manual trans Engine controller and install guide.
LINK
"Front Wheel Drive with 6 Speed Manual Trans Kit Part Number 19331686"

The engine controller looks to be "stand alone". Probably spendy as hell, but it kind of gives some hope that maybe the tune can be loaded into an existing PCM, that is already in hand.
(Of course, that doesn't help with the trans. )




So if you google that part number you'll see that its the engine harness, ECM, gas pedal, O2 sensor, MAF and a few other odds/ends. I have all that, when I pulled the motor, I knew enough to grab everything. I even went back a few days later and grabbed the in-tank pump, the charcoal canister, steal gas lines. I have the BCM, all the harness under the dash and all the harness attached to both fuze panels. I have a lot of wiring.

Still unsure if i'm going to use this. I may put it up for sale.

Rob
Will MAY 24, 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by qwikgta:


yep, for one car, the Regal GS, and three years of production they changed the bellhousing for the F40.



They did it for two years of G6 production.
pmbrunelle MAY 24, 10:34 PM
From what I know, die-cast molds are scrap and have to be redone after about 100k pieces.

So if you're going to make about 100k of something, the fact of it being different won't result in a cost increase (other than the administrative burden of managing another part number).
Blue Rocket MAY 26, 02:24 PM
The LCV 2.5 liter n/a version also shares this bell house. So my swap is also on hold there as well. A few places making adapters to bolt these to other rwd transmissions, so maybe a adapter can be made.
Dennis LaGrua MAY 26, 03:37 PM
The complete swap kit from GM for this engine runs $2700. Add in the cost of the engine clutch and all else and you are over $3,000 , maybe closer to $4,000 and that is for a DIY job. Doesn't seem to be cost effective.

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qwikgta MAY 27, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

The complete swap kit from GM for this engine runs $2700. Add in the cost of the engine clutch and all else and you are over $3,000 , maybe closer to $4,000 and that is for a DIY job. Doesn't seem to be cost effective.



What are you talking about? I have a complete 35,000 mile motor w/ accessories, including turbo and cold side plumbing, 6 speed 6T70 auto trans, ECM, BCM, engine and body harness, both fuel pumps, charcoal canister, axles, spindles, hubs, calipers, rotors, steel fuel and return lines and with all that I'm still under $350 bucks.

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qwikgta MAY 27, 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by Blue Rocket:

The LCV 2.5 liter n/a version also shares this bell house. So my swap is also on hold there as well. A few places making adapters to bolt these to other rwd transmissions, so maybe a adapter can be made.



Yes, the block bolt pattern is for RWD/AWD drive cars, like the Camaro/Cadillac. They do make an adapter for the 4T60 RWD trans. Not worried about an adapter, if I cant modify my 2007 F40 to fit, i'll stay with the 6T70 AT.
arbakken MAY 27, 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by qwikgta:


What are you talking about? I have a complete 35,000 mile motor w/ accessories, including turbo and cold side plumbing, 6 speed 6T70 auto trans, ECM, BCM, engine and body harness, both fuel pumps, charcoal canister, axles, spindles, hubs, calipers, rotors, steel fuel and return lines and with all that I'm still under $350 bucks.




To be fair, that's a pretty rocking deal!