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DJWINNI MAR 20, 05:10 AM
Hi Guys,

I 've also added 2 ground first between the battery and the chassis, then between the chassis and the engine...

see below:

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I noticed some differences!
-engine starts quickly
-idle smoother
-windows go up/down quickly
-headlights pop up quickly
-lights are brighter
-finally idles at 900, and before at 975

finally, it's much much better with these ground straps!!!

thanks!!

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Christophe **1986 PONTIAC FIERO - V6/2,8L**

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sonic50 MAR 25, 11:39 AM
OK I just did this on my 86SE. And I have to say that it does run alot better.

I think that I gave you a + but If I did not I am going to give you one

Vladd APR 19, 08:04 PM
just thought i would chime in, i haven't read every post, so just correct me if someone has already said this. What you all are doing is something very common in the car audio world, usually referred to as the "big 3"

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152355

Upgrading all these should help you guys out (not cause you're pushing 5kilowatts of power but because of the age of the wiring.)

Also a lot of the time your DMM's leads will still have more resistance than the wire you're using so measuring the resistance can be misleading.

PhatMax APR 20, 11:19 AM
Awsome Post!! I cant wiat to try this myself. Totaly makes sense. Ohms law
Voltage x resistance= current. The lower the resistance the more current flow, and less of a voltage drop. These cars have so many sensors that need to have all the parameters on the mark, not to mention the ECM. What happens is if the voltage is erratic going to the ECM all of the drive transistors, IC's etc will not see the correct voltages they need to see to "turn on and off" correctly. I know this as I used to repair audio gear for a living and seen first hand what bad grounds can do. Since the dist modual needs to have proper ground, I wonder what would happen if a grounded was added directly to the dist to battery gnd?????
Phil86SE APR 20, 11:53 PM
I performed this mod today,

I ran a new ground from the battery to the body and then the same one $RICH$ ran.

i have to say, great easy mod...everything seems brighter and runs faster and my RPMS have dropped about 200 at idle...very nice indeed.

- Phil

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"When enough is enough, thats when you know.....your halfway there"

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Toms88 APR 21, 03:04 PM
Damned good idea. I'm sure mine needs to be replaced. Thanks for the tip!
trailboss MAY 29, 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by tjm4fun:

this is a timeless post that should stay near the top for all to see.






I guess that is my motivation for chiming in...

Based on all of Rich'$ other post's I knew that this would be a profitable thing to do, but for whatever reason, when wrenching on my car I forgot about this avice or I put it on the back burner. After adding the new ground strap, the difference in performance was incredible....idling, acceleration, and shifting were the most obvious improvements. At the same time I decided to replace the battery cables because quite a few years ago while working on another car, I was amazed how much corrosion was in a positive battery cable when I stripped the insulation off, and my Fiero just turned 20, so I figured it was time.
Someone asked earlier about the benefit of doing the same thing on a Duke, If I still had my Dukemobile, it would definitely be getting the same treatment, the cost and time versus the potential benefit makes this upgrade a no brainer.
Rich gave me a ground, but I gave him a positive a long time ago....
Thanks again to Cliff also for keeping the forum running smoothly.

Bradester MAY 30, 12:45 PM
I just did this yesterday. Figured why the heck not. So far I have noticed:

Smoother idle
Brighter Headlights
Smoother Accereration
Smarter Cruise Control
Snappier Shifting

Cool for under $10!

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-Brady

$Rich$ JUL 22, 11:33 PM
ive had a few PM's latley about the subject, so i figured i'd bump it from the dead
never2old JUL 23, 08:25 AM
Yes, I sent $rich$ a question. I thought he was replacing cables.If I understand correctly he was adding {as his first post said}