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cartercarbaficionado
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JUL 01, 06:37 AM
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now back onto topic. does anyone know if the 1987 compressor is on any other gm so I can grab one that isn't locked up. also missing my low side line for some reason but I have the orifice tube. I got a drier out of a 86 but it didn't have the right fittings I think? or I'm missing the adapter. I do have the engine spinning currently which is a huge win considering the only Corrosion is in the engine bay and us quite bad. my air cleaner and housing crumbled and my throttle body was pretty dusty. (yes it was Corrosion where the rubber was) but so far other than the normal batter trst rust and the spindles on all 4 corners having surface rust this thing is very very clean. also do they sell a clutch master and slave rebuild kit? I touched my pedal like an idiot and it's stuck down. also boy does the new seat feel better. free indy 500 seat instead of a rat chewed gt one
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82-T/A [At Work]
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JUL 01, 08:16 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by theogre: Your Tow Vehicle maybe fine pulling 3000+ pounds... Stopping maybe a different story. Many vehicles w/ Factory installed Class 3 & 4 receivers expect the load to have their own brakes. More so w/ Draw Weight > 1000 to 2000 lb. The dolly is 750lb per Uhaul.com on top of Car weight & whatever crap in the car.
Again Towing anything Backward is Illegal in many places. In other states maybe legal but need more light & reflectors other then lights on the dolly.
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I'm honestly not sure. I ordered the trailer online, and it asked me what I was towing, and what I was towing it with. I was totally honest. It wouldn't let me tow it with the Ford Explorer because of legal reasons from the Firestone tire issue... (even though my Explorer is two generations newer than the one that had those tires). So I towed it with my Ford Edge. When I went to pick it up, the guy asked me the same questions, and didn't give me any issues. I usually tie a rope around the steering wheel. In this case, I THINK I did that as well (using a tow strap) to keep it from moving. I can't remember though.

Can I just say... the more I look at the "2m" body style, the more it grows on me. My Fiero is an 87 SE/V6 (which I've had since high school like 3 decades ago). But man... there's just something about that simplicity in design.
| quote | Originally posted by cartercarbaficionado:
now back onto topic. does anyone know if the 1987 compressor is on any other gm so I can grab one that isn't locked up. also missing my low side line for some reason but I have the orifice tube. I got a drier out of a 86 but it didn't have the right fittings I think? or I'm missing the adapter.
also do they sell a clutch master and slave rebuild kit? I touched my pedal like an idiot and it's stuck down. also boy does the new seat feel better. free indy 500 seat instead of a rat chewed gt one |
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Rodney Dickman sells an updated clutch master cyl if you're interested. It's a little pricey, but supposed to be fantastic. Rock Auto sells rebuild kits for both... but honestly, you might just be better off buying a new one, they're actually pretty inexpensive for the clutch master cyl: https://www.rockauto.com/en...master+cylinder,1996
... and for the clutch slave cyl: https://www.rockauto.com/en...+slave+cylinder,2044
Anyway, check out Rodney Dickman's site, he has everything you need: https://rodneydickman.com/index.php?cPath=61
It's a little pricey, but you can be sure that he totally engineered everything to work!
As for the compressor, I assume you're looking for the V5 (serpentine belt-driven). You can probably look at any late 1980s GM vehicle with an Iron Duke and it should be in there. It seems like the Iron Duke really needed the extra horsepower that compressor freed up by the improved design. I don't really understand it, but will look it up at some point... something about being variable and three separate chambers, versus the older style compressor which either runs 100% when on, or off... as the only two options.
Scratch that... you're looking for an HR6... I forgot this was a GT. I think almost any mid-80s GM car should have the compressor you need. The exception would be some of the rear wheel drive vehicles like trucks and such. Some of them still had those old boat anchors that looked like a small rotary engine with a belt attached to it! Haha....[This message has been edited by 82-T/A [At Work] (edited 07-01-2024).]
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longjonsilver
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JUL 01, 08:58 AM
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i towed my 84 an hour and a half away using a U Haul. U haul wudnt rent me a tow dolly for a Fiero, but instead insisted that i use a 4 wheel trailer (auto transport). They checked out my tow vehicle a 2007 Ford F150 carefully. Only then wud they rent me the trailer. i backed the Fiero on the trailer and there was too much weight on the front of the trailer/hitch. Went with it anyway and had no problems.

Years ago, i towed that very 84 with a dolly trailer that i made from tubing, channel and knuckles from a Chevy car. i drove her on to the dolly forward. Rear wheels on the ground. i towed her from California to Montreal using that rig. The tow vehicle was an S10 longbed 2.8 V6 5 speed. No trailer brakes, no problems.
Jus thot you mite wanna kno------------------ Astronomy says we will find a coded signal from outer space. Then we'll KNOW that life exists there, for coded signals aren't by chance.
Biology says there are coded genetic signals in every cell, but we KNOW that no intelligence created life.
I'm the original owner of a white ' 84 2M4 purchased Dec 10, 1983 from Pontiac. Always garaged, no rust, 3800SC, 4-wheel drifts are fun!
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cartercarbaficionado
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JUL 01, 05:00 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Rodney Dickman sells an updated clutch master cyl if you're interested. It's a little pricey, but supposed to be fantastic. Rock Auto sells rebuild kits for both... but honestly, you might just be better off buying a new one, they're actually pretty inexpensive for the clutch master cyl: https://www.rockauto.com/en...master+cylinder,1996
... and for the clutch slave cyl: https://www.rockauto.com/en...+slave+cylinder,2044
Anyway, check out Rodney Dickman's site, he has everything you need: https://rodneydickman.com/index.php?cPath=61
It's a little pricey, but you can be sure that he totally engineered everything to work!
As for the compressor, I assume you're looking for the V5 (serpentine belt-driven). You can probably look at any late 1980s GM vehicle with an Iron Duke and it should be in there. It seems like the Iron Duke really needed the extra horsepower that compressor freed up by the improved design. I don't really understand it, but will look it up at some point... something about being variable and three separate chambers, versus the older style compressor which either runs 100% when on, or off... as the only two options.
Scratch that... you're looking for an HR6... I forgot this was a GT. I think almost any mid-80s GM car should have the compressor you need. The exception would be some of the rear wheel drive vehicles like trucks and such. Some of them still had those old boat anchors that looked like a small rotary engine with a belt attached to it! Haha....
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I think I have a 2001 grand prix compressor sitting around but I'm not sure if fits. ideally I fix thus for as cheap as possible while being damn sure it's safe
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cartercarbaficionado
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JUL 02, 07:00 AM
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got the decklid fitted (not shown here lol.) after making a new hinge pin on a buddies lathe. old one snapped somehow I guess. making good progress with the hydraulic systems and they are fully functional so far and rebuild kits for the calipers will be on hand soon. column repair and electrical is next along with the fuel system getting cleaned also doing a temp egr delete since my solenoids rubber case crumbled to dust with the filter. I did remove the seat and replaced it with a free indy 500 seat I found since the old one reeked of dead rat. if anyone has any gt parts (or v6 emission parts or the air box) they are willing to mail over for free lemme know otherwise I'm gonna refurb what I can and make the rest safe enough

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cartercarbaficionado
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JUL 04, 08:56 PM
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so did they put Isuzu transmissions behind 2.8's? mine has the Isuzu style linkage and the cables on the side so I'm thinking its a Isuzu. it was a getrag at some point according to the vin so I'm thinking it had an engine swap around 2000 which would make the stuck engine and weird electric behavior make sense
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82-T/A [At Work]
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JUL 05, 10:19 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by cartercarbaficionado:
so did they put Isuzu transmissions behind 2.8's? mine has the Isuzu style linkage and the cables on the side so I'm thinking its a Isuzu. it was a getrag at some point according to the vin so I'm thinking it had an engine swap around 2000 which would make the stuck engine and weird electric behavior make sense |
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No, the Isuzu 5-Speed was only ever put behind the Iron Duke. The Getrag was the only other 5-Speed in the Fiero, and the only 5-Speed installed behind the V6. The only other manual transmission was the 4-Speed Muncie, and that was used in all of 84, only V6s in 85, and some V6s in 86.
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cartercarbaficionado
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JUL 06, 04:33 AM
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why are the plugs so much easier to do on a gt? also are 4 cylinder and 6 cylinders the same ecu just chipped different? I'm asking because I have a spare 85 ecu and my 87 one might be dead from moisture exposure. I'm gonna have to Don a biohazard suit to check since a rat had decided to die ontop of it. still not sure if my starter is dead or if I'm having some more power issues. I have no headlight motors but power to the lights themselves but no interior lights or power to my windows or mirrors. I do still have power to my rally gauges and sometimes my turn signal lights on the dash come to life. I haven't found any major wiring issues other than a big wire to the ecu having a chunk out of its insulation (getting fixed as we speak) also first time dealing with this on a 84-87 fiero but the passenger sides brakes front and rear don't actually seem to go back enough to not drag aggressively( almost locked up and the front is completely locked up) it's not a collapsed line or anything as I've checked and replaced them with a good set of used ones I took off my 84. I'm debating on sanding the pads down a bit as a stop gap solution which I know is very dumb but everything has checked out so far so either my pistons are stuck out somehow (unlikely as I rebuild a set and ordered another set of rebuilt ones and they both look the same as what's on the car) or the 14 year old pads are a little too thick
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Yellow-88
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JUL 06, 12:40 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cartercarbaficionado:
so did they put Isuzu transmissions behind 2.8's? mine has the Isuzu style linkage and the cables on the side so I'm thinking its a Isuzu. it was a getrag at some point according to the vin so I'm thinking it had an engine swap around 2000 which would make the stuck engine and weird electric behavior make sense |
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The factory never did, but it can be done. I did it so someone else may have also. " ... and the cables on the side ..." ( ?? ) "... weird electric behavior ..." ( ?? )
It seems like you somehow end up with a lot of "weird" issues. You confuse us.
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cartercarbaficionado
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JUL 06, 03:07 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Yellow-88:
The factory never did, but it can be done. I did it so someone else may have also. " ... and the cables on the side ..." ( ?? ) "... weird electric behavior ..." ( ?? )
It seems like you somehow end up with a lot of "weird" issues. You confuse us. |
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the cables on the side is referring to how it was described on this website on the FAQ for the transmissions. the electric issues are described in full detail at least twice in this thread. and yeah because I can't afford a nice fiero. so I get the cheap ones with untraceable issues
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