1988 Getrag 5 Speed Clutch Lever Free Play? (Page 2/2)
Patrick JAN 12, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Frenchrafe:

I use a modified clutch master cylinder lid and a small foot pump to pressure force the fluid through the lines and slave cylinder.



I did something similar years ago with my first Fiero. I had bought a vacuum pump to try and suck the fluid through the line, but that never seemed to work very well. So I used the other end of the vacuum pump and pushed the fluid through the system instead. Worked much better!

With my current Fiero(s), I now find that gravity bleeding works just fine.
theogre JAN 13, 12:25 AM
4 ref:
Nearly all Hyrdo Clutch & Cable Clutch have 0 play before throwout bearing hits the pressure plate "fingers."
& nothing to adjust.
Is Sim to Disk Brakes on Most vehicles during normal use.

Air in system can be sign that folk & TO Bearing has problems.
Air can ""suck in" thru slave seal when piston is not loaded right during releasing the clutch.
Iffy TH Bearing, iffy bearing for arm, lube/dirt problems, etc, can cause clutch binding cause slave seal to allow air sucking.

Drum Brakes etc can have sim problem but most don't have a lot of travel to suck air in vs Hydro Clutch slaves.

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Frenchrafe JAN 14, 04:45 AM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

I did something similar years ago with my first Fiero. I had bought a vacuum pump to try and suck the fluid through the line, but that never seemed to work very well. So I used the other end of the vacuum pump and pushed the fluid through the system instead. Worked much better!

With my current Fiero(s), I now find that gravity bleeding works just fine.



No, I don't suck the fluid, I push it through as you did. It always works for me. And it pushes the slave cylinder piston fully out so virtually no free play to worry about.
The gravity bleeding doesn't work on my car. Probably don't get the front end high enough for the fluid to flow? And/or the air bubbles don't want to move out without some helping pressure?

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Patrick JAN 14, 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by Frenchrafe:

No, I don't suck the fluid, I push it through as you did.



Yes Rafe, I understood you. I was just adding that I had tried to suck the fluid through the system first, which didn't work, and I then switched to pushing it through like you do.


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Originally posted by Frenchrafe:

The gravity bleeding doesn't work on my car. Probably don't get the front end high enough for the fluid to flow? And/or the air bubbles don't want to move out without some helping pressure?



With the front end raised (for extra gravity assist), and the driver's (left) side tilted up (so the bleeder is at the highest point of the slave), I will gently push the clutch pedal to the floor with the bleeder open, then close the bleeder, and allow the pedal to return. No, I don't require a helper. I stand by the side of the engine bay with a hockey stick (Canadian, eh!), and use the stick to push the clutch pedal down. While holding the pedal to the floor with my left hand hand, my right hand tightens the bleeder. Rinse and repeat a couple of times, making sure the reservoir does not go empty. Then I do the gravity bleed. Works like a charm.

However, with dual-seal slaves now on my manual transmission Fieros, I no longer need to bleed the system unless I've had to take something apart. I don't wanna talk about the old days, with single-seal slaves.
Frenchrafe JAN 15, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

With the front end raised (for extra gravity assist), and the driver's (left) side tilted up (so the bleeder is at the highest point of the slave), I will gently push the clutch pedal to the floor with the bleeder open, then close the bleeder, and allow the pedal to return. No, I don't require a helper. I stand by the side of the engine bay with a hockey stick (Canadian, eh!), and use the stick to push the clutch pedal down. While holding the pedal to the floor with my left hand hand, my right hand tightens the bleeder. Rinse and repeat a couple of times, making sure the reservoir does not go empty. Then I do the gravity bleed. Works like a charm.




OK, good technique! I'll try that next time, with a long stick as I don't play hockey!

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