Jacking Up for Cradle Drop (Page 2/4)
Notorio FEB 09, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by Will:

Install a trailer hitch and lifting becomes super easy...



Has anyone actually put a hitch on a Fiero? It seems a little undignified to me for some reason
Boozeman FEB 09, 05:12 PM
Have you seen the "Trailering Instructions" in the owner's manual?

It simply says, "Do not pull a trailer with your Fiero."

I thought that was pretty funny...

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skywurz FEB 09, 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by Boozeman:

Have you seen the "Trailering Instructions" in the owner's manual?

It simply says, "Do not pull a trailer with your Fiero."

I thought that was pretty funny...




No it doesn't

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theogre FEB 09, 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by Boozeman:

Have you seen the "Trailering Instructions" in the owner's manual?

It simply says, "Do not pull a trailer with your Fiero."

I thought that was pretty funny...

Is very common and Many vehicles have same in the OM.
And If you still tow, most like Fiero only allow 100# tongue weight and 1000# Total Trailer weight.
That's including many "Smaller" SUV and Trucks.

100# behind rear bumper puts a lot of load that can lighten the front axle big time affecting brakes and steering. Is worse then 100# in the Fiero Truck just behind rear axle.

Many small trailers eat ~ ½ to all of 1000# including many trailers are cut down Fiero. The tiny trailer HF and others sell weigh 150# w/ just a simple deck to complete them. (At lest I think why Shipping Weight is lower then Product Weight.)
Then load the trailer and car to be way over loaded ignoring GVWR.

87 Fiero pg 2-2...
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TRAILER TOWING
This car is designed and intended to be used mainly to carry people. Towing a trailer will affect handling, durability and economy. Your safety and satisfaction depend upon proper use of correct equipment. Also, you should avoid overloads and other abusive use.
The maximum loaded trailer weight you can pull with your car is 450 kilograms (1000 pounds). The maximum static tongue weight should not exceed 45 kilograms (100 pounds).

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eti engineer FEB 09, 09:28 PM
An easy way to tell how high I needed to go on my '88 was to watch when the front air dam hit the ground. At the point it was just starting to touch the ground, the car was high enough to get the engine out. BUT, I built the Toddster's cradle, lowered the car on the cradle, finished pulling the cradle bolts while the car was sitting on the cradle and then used my engine hoist to lift the back end of the car as high as I could which was until the front air dam touched the ground. The engine slid out easily through the passenger side rear wheel housing.





eti engineer FEB 09, 09:34 PM
Toddster's cradle has been the most helpful piece of equipment in this whole thing. I was able to move things around on the cradle so I could easily work on them. I put my engine on the hoist and then bolted it to my engine stand to work on it. I am just waiting for my new 3.4 engine to be delivered so I can put things back together. It's supposed to be here "any day now". There are instructions in here on the dimensions for Todd's cradle (Thanks, Todd!!!). I have a link. If I can find it, I will post it in here.
eti engineer FEB 09, 09:55 PM
https://gafiero.akroncdnr.com/docs/rv6.pdf

This is the link to help you remove the engine. It also shows you how to build the cradle. Believe me, it is worth the time and money to do so!!!!
theogre FEB 09, 10:56 PM
2 large moving flat "carts" will do that but get ones w/ good wheels.
But Most at HF Walmart etc have crap wheels and won't steer even loaded < ½ of capacity. Main issue isn't actual wheel but caster "bearing" at top.

Their "small" and "cheap" and can use then elsewhere and store easy when not needed.

Notes:
Don't leave loads on wood carts. Even above may look strong but can warp under load and easier gets soak w/ oil coolant etc.
If have to work on "blacktop" then don't leave carts w/ load on the pavement or can sink into it overnight. Many Jacks and other things have same problem covered in Cave.
Notorio FEB 09, 11:11 PM
It's funny that the small wheel dolly/skates have been mentioned. After looking at local and other on line options my plan is to get this pair on Amazon (Pentagon Tools 5061 Tire Skates 2 Tire Wheel Car Dolly Ball Bearings Skate, 12" (Pack of 2) Rated at 6000lbs) which are $78. Beware the cheaper set also by Pentagon with the poor quality casters. These skates will add a few inches to jacking up for clearance but I like the idea of them being easy to store, plus I don't need to build them myself.



ETI, can you tell us more about the 3.4 you are getting 'any day now'?? I'm still kicking the idea around for a short block and can't decide between going with the Camaro 3.4 or one of the newer 3400 (but with the Camaro pistons to get back to a good compression ratio with Fiero heads.
I still need the set up to look stock.) Last year Dennis sent me a nice summary comparing the two options.

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Will FEB 10, 08:13 AM

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Originally posted by eti engineer:




That's a REALLY TALL cradle dolly.