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| 2016 Buick Regal Turbo Ecotec motor for a swap, what are the challenges? (Page 2/4) |
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wftb
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MAY 18, 08:50 AM
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https://gmauthority.com/blo...l-turbo-i4-ltg-2.jpg
Front wheel transverse drive. The only difference seems to be the exhaust. On the old eco's like mine the exhaust comes out the left side of the engine. On the LTG it comes out of the right side or towards the front of a Fiero. To me that would be an improvement as exhaust could be routed like a stock Fiero. Still have not found a bell housing diagram yet. ------------------
86 GT built 2.2 ecotec turbo
rear SLA suspension
QA1 coilovers on tube arms
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qwikgta
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MAY 18, 10:10 AM
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starter is in the wrong location, and the bolt pattern is different. Starter is over the axle in the LTG and its on the opposite side on the "other" ecotec.
14-17 LTG
Early Ecotec
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wftb
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MAY 18, 10:31 AM
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What is the name of the automatic that is bolted to your LTG ? This is a rear drive tranny that is listed as the manual for the LTG, no fwd trans is listed on the Chevy performance website.
https://www.chevrolet.com/i...ansmissions/ltg.html
The LTG is a clean sheet design, nothing from the old 4 cyl ecotecs fits it. I notice the alternator is on the opposite side, the waterpump is belt driven instead of the internal chain drive like mine and because of that you have to leave the AC compressor on. With earlier eco's you can just take the compressor off and run a short belt from the cavalier that had no AC. I did not realize they had changed so much.
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86 GT built 2.2 ecotec turbo
rear SLA suspension
QA1 coilovers on tube arms[This message has been edited by wftb (edited 05-18-2020).]
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qwikgta
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MAY 18, 04:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by wftb:
What is the name of the automatic that is bolted to your LTG ?
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Its 6T70, its a FWD trans but b/c the motor was for Cadillac and the Camaro it started out as a AWD/RWD motor first. At least that's what I've been reading.
Rob[This message has been edited by qwikgta (edited 05-18-2020).]
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wftb
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MAY 18, 06:49 PM
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Thanks for the info that all makes sense. For a lot of car companies the 2 litre 4 cylinder turbo has become a universal engine. Variations of it is all Volvo uses in all their cars and SUV's. ------------------
86 GT built 2.2 ecotec turbo
rear SLA suspension
QA1 coilovers on tube arms
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Will
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MAY 19, 10:01 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by wftb:
Here is some info I found on the LTG. It was designed to be used in longitudinal or transverse applications. There are diagrams of everything except the bolt patterns here. https://via-autoworks.my-on...002281_20063234.aspx
I always thought all ecotecs had the same bolt patterns. I will do some more digging , there has to be a diagram somewhere.
Does that Regal you are getting the parts off have the Hyperstrut front suspension? It will have an upper ball joint on the spindle if it does.
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Wrong Link?
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arbakken
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MAY 19, 10:24 AM
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I'm nearly certain the bolt pattern is the same on FWD and RWD ecotecs. I've never seen anything to the contrary. They may have put the starter in a different place due to packaging, but that's on the transmission side anyways.
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qwikgta
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MAY 19, 11:58 AM
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Once the wx clears here in Va Bch, i'll pull out the 07 F40 and put the two together once and for all.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the starter bolts to the motor right? if so, then the early F40 will not work, b/c there is no "hole" in the 07 F40 case for the starter to "poke out". So even if the 07 trans "could" bolt to the 2016 block, the starter (attached to the block) will interfere with the trans.
Also, I don't think I can just cut the 07 case to fit the 16 starter location. Before I did all that, I'd prob start to see how difficult using the 6spd auto trans will be.
just for ref, here is a pic of the 6T70 auto trans.
and here is a pic of the engine side of the LTG motor.
Rob[This message has been edited by qwikgta (edited 05-19-2020).]
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wftb
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MAY 19, 01:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Will:
Wrong Link? |
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Yes sorry about that. Fixed it.
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arbakken
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MAY 19, 04:51 PM
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What car did your F40 come out of?
This is from a ZZP F40 swap kit for earlier 2.0 ecotecs
| quote | | Requires Saab 9-3 ('07+ preferred for best performance gearing) or 2011-13 Regal 6 speed F40 transmission and PCM reprogramming to adjust for the new speed sensor. It does fit pre-2007 Saab F40 but the gearing is not optimal. The Regal transmission has poor gearing for drag or road course cars (wide gears, tall final drive), but can be useful for half mile racing. Please don't ask if it will work with XX transmission. It's designed for a Saab or 11-13 Regal trans as stated above and nothing else. |
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Both the 2011-2013 and 2014-2016 F40 6 speed option code is MR6, but they don't seem to interchange. The regal didn't get the LTG until 2014, so I guess it's possible they changed the transmission... but... man that seems dumb[This message has been edited by arbakken (edited 05-20-2020).]
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