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Will
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MAY 06, 08:37 PM
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LOL K.
Nice to see you pay attention.
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longjonsilver
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MAY 08, 09:59 AM
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Thanks, guys. i managed to get a socket on the bolt - 15mm. Had to use a swivel on an extension, but couldn't put enuf pressure on the bolt to keep the socket from slipping off. i went in thru the right side of the distributor. If only there were some way to get in thru the back. Cvxjet posted a pic of a wrench on the bolt. Where could i buy such a wrench?
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Astronomy says we will find a coded signal from outer space. Then we'll KNOW that life exists there, for coded signals aren't by chance.
Biology says there are coded genetic signals in every cell, but we KNOW that no intelligence created life.
I'm the original owner of a white ' 84 2M4 purchased Dec 10, 1983 from Pontiac. Always garaged, no rust, 4-wheel drifts are fun!
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olejoedad
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MAY 08, 10:09 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:
Sorry to hear that you've had a bad experience. Sounds like you were just unlucky. I've owned many Fieros and while I'm not thrilled with the 2.8L's performance, they all proved reliable. Last I read you are doing a Northstar build. Not to rag on your work, but that engine, pre-2005 has a terrible reputation for head gasket failures and reliability. Apparently the problem was that GM used faulty fine threaded headbolts that pulled out of the aluminum block. That was later remedied using longer course thread head small block bolts and threadserts. While that engine has plenty of power potential I am hesitant to use as the 4T80 is huge, heavy and a very difficult fit
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Having owned a few Northstar cars, I would suggest that the problem has been overhyped, especially for the first gen engines.
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css9450
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MAY 08, 12:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by longjonsilver:
Cvxjet posted a pic of a wrench on the bolt. Where could i buy such a wrench?
jon
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https://www.amazon.com/Perf...id=1588956479&sr=8-1
Would be handy if these were sold in stores.... Maybe some stores have them, but I've not seen them.
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Will
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MAY 08, 01:58 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Having owned a few Northstar cars, I would suggest that the problem has been overhyped, especially for the first gen engines. |
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Just like the 20 minute starter change has been mischaracterized by people who barely know which end of a wrench to use.
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longjonsilver
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MAY 09, 06:40 AM
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Thanks, that's what i needed.
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fierofool
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MAY 09, 07:38 AM
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DimeMachine
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MAY 09, 09:29 AM
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Here is what I hate about teh 2.8 60 degree engine.
Back in the mid 90's I upgraded my car from the 84 base 2.5 to an 86 2.8 V6. Going from 96 to 135 HP was wonderful (cant believe I am saying that in 2020 where even grandmas grocery getter has 230 hp) and it gave owners of the Fiero a taste of performance (finally) and dreams of what might come next. I had several 2.8's in Fieros through the years and I had two of them spin rod bearings and one of them have a pesky intake manifold gasket leak creating a not so lubricating creamy tan oil mix.... I came to know that 2.8's were not the most reliable engine around, but they sure were a lot more fun than the very reliable IRON DUKE 2.5.
Sorry, the title of this thread go me thinking.....
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84/87 NB, 3800SC, E-85, VS Cam, 2.8 Pulley, 4T65E-HD, HP Tuners, AEM Wideband, Regal GS Gauges, S-10 Brake Booster. 1/4 mile -11.85 at 114mph
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pmbrunelle
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MAY 09, 12:25 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by longjonsilver:
Thanks, that's what i needed. |
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I think you can cut a wrench and an extension to make one yourself.
I've seen people welding wrenches with success. In this case it should be especially applicable, since you don't have to torque a distributor bolt very hard, the risk of breakage is low.
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cvxjet
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MAY 09, 12:57 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by DimeMachine:
Here is what I hate about teh 2.8 60 degree engine.
Back in the mid 90's I upgraded my car from the 84 base 2.5 to an 86 2.8 V6. Going from 96 to 135 HP was wonderful (cant believe I am saying that in 2020 where even grandmas grocery getter has 230 hp) and it gave owners of the Fiero a taste of performance (finally) and dreams of what might come next. I had several 2.8's in Fieros through the years and I had two of them spin rod bearings and one of them have a pesky intake manifold gasket leak creating a not so lubricating creamy tan oil mix.... I came to know that 2.8's were not the most reliable engine around, but they sure were a lot more fun than the very reliable IRON DUKE 2.5.
Sorry, the title of this thread go me thinking.....
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I owned my 1985 SE V6 since new- ordered it from the factory and paid $11, 609 out the door; The V6 ran strong and good, but the 4speed trany lost second gear in 1998, so I swapped in a Getrag 5 speed- and while doing that I installed a 3.4 F-body long block......Always changed the oil, never had any milkshake......
The original 2.8 V6 had 130,000 on it when I pulled it....The 3.4 now has 65,000 on it since the swap- and had 30,000 on the long block originally......Only problems I have are a bit of oil leaking from the edge of the oil pan and a slight coolant leak up around the Thermo housing.
What I am saying is I never really had any problems at all- but if I had to deal with a used Fiero with a PO who did not take care of it, I could see problems happening- that is with any car/Engine......I think the GM 60 V6 is a good and reliable engine. I also have a 3900 in my 2008 Van- with 70,000 on it- only problem was a MAF that was causing problems so I swapped in a new one at 60,000.
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